In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

It could be a shrew move to add to the pressure for Openreach PLC and forcing investment in Gigabit FTTP, e.g. we have launched this product but can only sell in 2% of the UK, and this means TV is costing 98% of people more than it could be.

I hadn't thought of it this way but this does sound like the type of marketing game Sky would play. Also with the massive increase in on-demand content Sky cant afford to ignore that either and I do wonder how much of the Sky subscription charge is attributed to their primary delivery method via the satellite.

In reply to a post by ian72:

I got Sky Q upgrade last week. Brand new small dish plus the LNB works differently. I don't have a requirement for as many boxes as you but Sky Q does seem to work better for me (at least at the moment - I am aware that some early adopters have had issues with it).

Well I was under the impression no dish was required, but after some light reading it is still required.

As for us here moving over to Sky Q, not happening anytime soon, we have Amazon Prime, Netflix UHD, so no point.

Maybe I will wait for Sky Q to mature some more before I look into it again.

Paul

In reply to a post by ian72:

Brand new small dish plus the LNB works differently.

I havent seriously looked into upgrading to Sky Q yet (primarily because of cost) but also hadnt realised they need to change the dish. Mine needs scaffolding to get to it so thats another good reason for me not to upgrade.

The dish doesn't have to be changed (mine was because it was rusty) but the LNB on the arm of the dish does - so they will need access.

The cost of Sky Q is nowhere near the extra that it was a little while back. You may have to pay a bit for the box upgrade but monthly subscription is the same as with normal Sky HD.

For me, even if ever had the money for Sky Q again is that you never get to own the box, i.e. stop subscription and box is returned. At least with the old Sky+ HD you could keep box after as a FreeSat arrangement.

That is true. But, as you don't own it you don't have to pay Sky to get it fixed if (when) it goes wrong.

I never used the Sky HD for Freesat because you can't record on it unless you pay a subscription so when not with Sky I have used other boxes for either Freeview or Freesat.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

At least with the old Sky+ HD you could keep box after as a FreeSat arrangement.

Very poor indeed, Sky will disabled Sky+ feature such as live pause, rewind, fast forward and recording on FTA channels. Sky want £10 a month for this feature to be turned on.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

At least with the old Sky+ HD you could keep box after as a FreeSat arrangement.

Very poor indeed, Sky will disabled Sky+ feature such as live pause, rewind, fast forward and recording on FTA channels. Sky want £10 a month for this feature to be turned on.

And that's totally true. I dumped the sky box when I bought a TV with freesat built in. At least with a USB drive or external drive I can do all sky wanted that charge to enable

In reply to a post by ian72:

That is true. But, as you don't own it you don't have to pay Sky to get it fixed if (when) it goes wrong.

Free box replacements/service calls for out of warranty H/W or out of contract users are/were common place though, so that argument doesn't really hold up IMO.

Its an interesting one in terms of consumer rights too, don't believe it was ever fully tested.

Taking a subscription for a service where previously supplied hardware has failed is tough to justify