True in fact, but convenient to use as a description on a forum. An accurate description could take a fairly long sentence, and the meaning is clear to everyone who understands as it is . People who don't understand won't be worried either.

FTTC with MPF? That depends how you view the E-side copper, which is only carrying the PSTN. It certainly isn't SMPF. But neither is it carrying the TalkTalk broadband.

Which raises the question, will the copper be WLR3 or will it be terminating on a TT MSAN? Or will that depend on whether the PSTN exchange is TT-unbundled?

I believe Openreach call it FTTC with MPF. Will double check in a bit though.

Obviously SMPF cannot exist with FTTC. When an order is placed on a line with SMPF, it will cease the SMPF.

>Obviously SMPF cannot exist with FTTC. When an order is placed on a line with SMPF, it will cease the SMPF.

Might be worth expanding that, as to many it might make them think that moving their phone service from one WLR provider to another will cease there FTTC, when it will not.

If I read that correctly we can also have FTTC with WLR3. I believe that is what I have.

Yep. Probably easier to say you cannot have ADSL and FTTC on the same phone line.

FTTC to FTTC moves are straight forward and this is all done remotely. It's the MPF-WLR or WLR-MPF phone line and FTTC move which can be a little more complicated.

My setup has always been WLR3 with one CP and BT Wholesale-based broadband with another. The broadband now being FTTC. How would you describe that in terms of MPF/SMPF?

What description do you apply to the case you challenged? In the circumstances of-

- both services being from the same exchange;

- the FTTC going to a different headend but the user was previously on MPF at the phone exchange and the FTTC is with that same supplier;

- the FTTC going to a different headed but the phone supplier is not the FTTC supplier.

Edited by RobertoS (Wed 22-Feb-17 13:21:59)

My service is currently ADSL.

I'm not a very heavy user so I'm happy to go with whatever's the best deal for my budget