General Discussion
  >> General Broadband Chatter


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.


Pages in this thread: 1 | [2] | 3 | 4 | (show all)   Print Thread
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Aug-17 11:04:18
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: obroad] [link to this post]
 
You seem to have forgotten we are talking about analogue signals in a home environment where there are plenty of noise sources.
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 16-Aug-17 16:26:58
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
So got a nice thick Cat 6 RJ11 to RJ45 through the post today. Top sync - 77, can't beat the Billion 8800 R2 cable still at 79109.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A Bridge on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/15025669961...

Current Sync: 79195/17469

My Broadband Ping
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 16-Aug-17 17:09:53
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
Thick tells you nothing about the conductors, might just be an extra chunky layer of insulation or the centre plastic spacer making the difference

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.

Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 16-Aug-17 17:30:36
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
It's an interesting academic exercise but particularly interesting is that Billion supply the fastest syncing modem cables.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A Bridge on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/15025669961...

Current Sync: 79195/17469

My Broadband Ping
Standard User threelegs
(learned) Wed 16-Aug-17 18:21:15
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
it could also that the action of plugging and unplugging cables is wiping the contact pins clean of any dirt / oxidisation so thereby improving speeds? i used to do this with double enders in jackfields when I worked for the bbc

Edited by threelegs (Wed 16-Aug-17 18:22:18)

Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 16-Aug-17 19:00:24
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: threelegs] [link to this post]
 
Possible but you re-insert a poor cable and the speed goes back to where it was on first test. I used to make jackfields.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A Bridge on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/15025669961...

Current Sync: 79195/17469

My Broadband Ping
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Aug-17 19:24:06
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: obroad] [link to this post]
 
Regarding longer lead, I have experience with "Thin" Ethernet co-ax cables.

These either had to be extremely short, a few inches, or 8 feet (2.5 Metres) long minimum.

Anything in between gave problems.

Management complained about the general "excessive" length, so I experimented with varying lengths, to confirm or otherwise my general observations.

The equipment being connected was just too far apart for the "inches" leads.

It worked perfectly with the 8 foot and longer leads.

But generally was very poor with in-between lengths.

-------

With "Thick" Ethernet co-ax, it has markings at about 8 foot intervals.

Vampire taps had to positioned at that pitch between them, not necessarily on the marks themselves; but that minimum distance apart - otherwise problems.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Aug-17 19:29:58
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
Are you describing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE5 ?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Aug-17 20:14:54
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
That link shows the "Thick" Ethernet with Vampire Tap etc, so "Yes" wrt to the last part of my comment.

The first part, Thin Ethernet, used coax cable about 6 mm diameter, similar to domestic TV aerial coax; but slightly different impedance, 75 ohm if I remember correctly, rather than 72 ohn for TV.

----------

The Vampire Taps had to be carefully attached to the Thick Ethernet, including drilling in to it from its far side, often teetering at the top of a 25 foot, 3-section, ladder, with the bits and pieces tucked inside my shirt top.

On one occasion, the company insisted that a "networking" company deal with a new extension, 5 taps, at about 7 feet up.

I had to re-do 4 of them, they were so badly installed.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Aug-17 20:24:30
Print Post

Re: Modem Cable experiments on my line.


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
Just noticed that the Thick impedance is given as "50 ohm", so the same for the Thin Ethernet, as it was possible to connect them end to end , using a special but simple adaptor.

I did this on a few occasions for demonstrations to customers.
Pages in this thread: 1 | [2] | 3 | 4 | (show all)   Print Thread

Jump to