In reply to a post by BatBoy:

I don�t think they have a fix for it but a different Wi-Fi transmitter should do it. Which model tplink did you buy?

Not sure. It was the cheapest Argos had. £30 I think it was.

Was it this model?

http://uk.tp-link.com/products/details/cat-15_TD-W99...

Looks like it but different model number tp link n300

Sometimes cheapest can be a false economy.

I daresay costs are what drove TT to provide a shoddy router in the first place.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Sometimes cheapest can be a false economy.

In 5GHz, especially.

When I first looked, I discovered that the cheapest wifi provision was limited to power levels suitable for America, not the ones allowed in the EU or the UK.

Likewise, the cheapest hardware didn't bother with the radar detection functionality, so limited the choice of channels to the "easiest" first 4 (channels 36, 40, 44 and 48).

When you're given shoddy hardware, it is no wonder people think that 5GHz isn't as good as 2.4GHz. IMO it is better.

In reality, there are 4 more channels (52, 56, 60 and 64) that can use the same power as the first four. Then there are 11 more channels that can use a much higher power setting ... if the hardware can cope.

Once I discovered this, I stopped relying on the ISP's router/modem as a WiFi access point, and installed my own standalone version, looking at the products that are nearer enterprise offerings.

What channels are you given a choice of by BT's and TT's hardware?

In reply to a post by falko89:

Looks like it but different model number tp link n300

False economy, buying a cheap 2.4Ghz router is a terrible idea, 2.4Ghz can barely do 20Meg in most populated areas. You need AC1200.

The HG635 (a talktalk router) is the best one they have ever offered, it has better range than my SmartHub in my home, a ps4 could pick it up and do 1080p streaming, my smarthub in the same place the ps4 doesn't even see. It is also dual band, gigabit ethernet and wireless AC1200.

They also supply a D-Link 3782 which doesn't have crippled wireless, but overall poor range (this is supplied to a large no of customers when they join currently). You have been unlucky to get the HG633, the issue is when they replace devices it's usually for the same model.

The only router talktalk have ever supplied with crippled wireless is the HG633 and it's widely known.

HG635: One here for £25
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TALKTALK-HUAWEI-HG635-WIR...

There is one for £15 but the white power adapter is not genuine.

No point cancelling over WiFi not being what you expect, most ISPs don't have amazing WiFi, Sky included.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Thu 14-Dec-17 14:49:33)

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Sometimes cheapest can be a false economy.

I daresay costs are what drove TT to provide a shoddy router in the first place.

Absolutely they used to supply HG635 which was a great device, with gigabit ethernet, great range, WiFi speeds of 400Mbps+ between devices on AC. No issues what-so-ever. This was exclusive for fibre customers, others got a HG533.

They then switched to the HG633 for all customers, which has only 100Mbps ethernet ports, and develops literally millions of errors on the 5Ghz WiFi in a matter of hours.

Due to complaints they are migrating over to a DLink 3782 device for customers, but due to some recent WiFi vulnerabilities etc they have gone back to issuing these HG633 devices.

See the speedtest results here:
http://c-8oqtgrjgwu46x24mucuugvux2evkogkpewmx2epgv.g...

Edited by ukhardy07 (Thu 14-Dec-17 15:00:18)

Right folks, I'm beat. All out of ideas now. Brand new TP Link router. Wireless results

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/15132804663... No better than the Talk Talk router.

What model is the TP Link?

This is ethernet. Quite impressive. https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/15132807341...

TP Link w9970