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Standard User uno
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-May-18 21:02:10
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: Woolwich] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Woolwich:
Not sure where my MTU setting is TBH. Mac or router? Either way I haven't touched it, honost!


Router.

Try lowering to 1432 just to see if there is any behaviour change. You can revert if not.

Matt

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-May-18 21:04:09
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: Woolwich] [link to this post]
 
Well I am with BT and I can access those sites fine, but I did some trace routes to them and have the following:

traceroute --icmp zen.co.uk
traceroute to zen.co.uk (34.248.255.53), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.2.253 (192.168.2.253)  0.271 ms  0.303 ms  0.263 ms
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  31.55.186.188 (31.55.186.188)  3.965 ms  3.939 ms  4.341 ms
 5  core3-hu0-16-0-3.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.198)  4.121 ms  4.270 ms  4.255 ms
 6  peer2-et-2-3-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net (62.172.103.37)  3.640 ms  3.583 ms  3.465 ms
 7  195.99.126.11 (195.99.126.11)  3.509 ms  3.562 ms  3.532 ms
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *
13  * * *
14  * * *
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *

As you can see traceroute gives fails to get to the destination before the 30 hops.

traceroute --icmp duckduckgo.com
traceroute to duckduckgo.com (79.125.105.113), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.2.253 (192.168.2.253)  0.342 ms  0.288 ms  0.256 ms
 2  * * *
 3  31.55.186.177 (31.55.186.177)  3.031 ms  3.002 ms  2.974 ms
 4  31.55.186.176 (31.55.186.176)  4.027 ms  3.995 ms  3.970 ms
 5  195.99.127.110 (195.99.127.110)  3.964 ms  3.935 ms  4.419 ms
 6  peer2-et-9-1-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net (62.172.103.43)  3.444 ms  3.266 ms  3.316 ms
 7  195.99.126.11 (195.99.126.11)  3.410 ms  3.375 ms  3.300 ms
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *
13  * * *
14  * * *
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
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21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *

Its the same with duckduckgo.com

traceroute --icmp ee.co.uk
traceroute to ee.co.uk (54.72.201.146), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.2.253 (192.168.2.253)  0.365 ms  0.307 ms  0.263 ms
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  31.55.186.176 (31.55.186.176)  5.314 ms  5.509 ms  5.474 ms
 5  host213-121-192-52.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.52)  3.919 ms  3.892 ms  4.345 ms
 6  peer2-et-2-3-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net (62.172.103.37)  4.510 ms  4.452 ms  4.394 ms
 7  195.99.126.11 (195.99.126.11)  4.427 ms  4.519 ms  4.519 ms
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *
13  * * *
14  * * *
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
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21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *

Same with ee.co.uk

traceroute --icmp www.ispreview.co.uk
traceroute to www.ispreview.co.uk (217.160.0.152), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.2.253 (192.168.2.253)  0.428 ms  0.365 ms  0.325 ms
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  31.55.186.184 (31.55.186.184)  5.487 ms  5.609 ms  5.559 ms
 5  195.99.127.100 (195.99.127.100)  4.500 ms  4.628 ms  4.597 ms
 6  213.121.193.199 (213.121.193.199)  5.977 ms  5.898 ms  5.754 ms
 7  linx.bb-c.the.lon.gb.oneandone.net (195.66.224.98)  5.043 ms  5.092 ms  5.057 ms
 8  ae-6.bb-c.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net (212.227.120.49)  18.633 ms  18.607 ms  18.571 ms
 9  217-160-0-152.elastic-ssl.ui-r.com (217.160.0.152)  18.528 ms  18.493 ms  18.209 ms

ISPReview seems ok for me.

traceroute --icmp bbc.co.uk
traceroute to bbc.co.uk (151.101.0.81), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.2.253 (192.168.2.253)  0.324 ms  0.278 ms  0.225 ms
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  31.55.186.188 (31.55.186.188)  4.081 ms  4.051 ms  4.040 ms
 5  core4-hu0-17-0-9.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.64)  3.986 ms  3.955 ms  3.945 ms
 6  peer8-et-0-1-3.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.252.98)  3.539 ms  3.720 ms  3.594 ms
 7  195.99.126.83 (195.99.126.83)  3.492 ms  3.398 ms  3.353 ms
 8  151.101.0.81 (151.101.0.81)  2.880 ms  2.939 ms  2.907 ms

BBC Site seems fine.

traceroute --icmp google.co.uk
traceroute to google.co.uk (216.58.208.163), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.2.253 (192.168.2.253)  0.328 ms  0.285 ms  0.249 ms
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  31.55.186.180 (31.55.186.180)  4.378 ms  4.346 ms  4.315 ms
 5  195.99.127.54 (195.99.127.54)  3.280 ms  3.252 ms  3.287 ms
 6  peer8et-7-0-3.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (62.172.103.174)  3.381 ms  3.486 ms  3.329 ms
 7  109.159.253.191 (109.159.253.191)  3.192 ms  3.144 ms  3.099 ms
 8  * * *
 9  216.239.56.192 (216.239.56.192)  3.139 ms  3.098 ms  3.150 ms
10  216.239.46.29 (216.239.46.29)  4.068 ms  4.019 ms  3.965 ms
11  lhr25s09-in-f3.1e100.net (216.58.208.163)  3.108 ms  3.075 ms  3.039 ms

As so is Google.

What I have noticed is that ZEN, EE and DuckDuckGO they all fail at the same point, maybe they are using the same hosting company and that hosting company is having issues.

The strange thing is I am having no issues viewing the sites.

Have you tried flushing your DND cache (assuming you are on a PC)

ipconfig /flushdns

Then re-open the browser and try again.

Paul

BTBroadband - Ultrafast 2 330 Mbps (down), 50 Mbps (up) FVA
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Edited by PaulKirby (Tue 01-May-18 21:05:37)

Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-May-18 21:06:55
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
I tried changing DNS, still the same. Tried on my phone, still the same. Its not the same sites as the OP, i have different sites having issues

One is http://www.gamefaqs.com/


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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-May-18 21:21:43
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Broadband/Terrib...

Someone over on the TT forums having similar issues
Standard User Woolwich
(committed) Tue 01-May-18 21:22:59
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
AV software or parental controls gone mad?

Clock set to correct time?


Can�t see anything unusual on the router, different devices (Mac & iPad) having same trouble with certain sites.
Standard User Woolwich
(committed) Tue 01-May-18 21:24:26
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: bobble_bob] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by bobble_bob:
Do Zen use a Talk Talk line by any chance?


My POTS line is on a Zen account as is my ADSL.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-May-18 21:26:56
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: bobble_bob] [link to this post]
 
Well I didn't say try a different DNS, I said flush it, it might of stored some old routing.

The site you refer to seems fine to me in the >> browser (screenshot) << and also the routing:

traceroute --icmp gamefaqs.gamespot.com
traceroute to gamefaqs.gamespot.com (64.30.228.84), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 192.168.2.253 (192.168.2.253) 0.430 ms 0.357 ms 0.318 ms
2 * * *
3 * * *
4 31.55.186.184 (31.55.186.184) 5.453 ms 5.697 ms 6.987 ms
5 core3-hu0-8-0-5.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.40) 4.114 ms 4.171 ms 4.936 ms
6 peer1-et1-1-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.193.161) 4.900 ms 4.244 ms 4.291 ms
7 akamai.prolexic.com (195.66.224.31) 6.621 ms 6.485 ms 6.522 ms
8 a72-52-60-192.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com (72.52.60.192) 5.189 ms 5.157 ms 5.245 ms
9 ae120.access-a.sech-lon2.netarch.akamai.com (72.52.60.197) 11.444 ms 11.922 ms 11.957 ms
10 * * *
11 a209-200-160-232.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com (209.200.160.232) 132.547 ms 131.873 ms 132.302 ms
12 reth0-1205.fw3.phx2.cbsig.net (216.239.126.221) 132.590 ms 133.162 ms 133.089 ms
13 irb-1214.spine3.phx2.cbsig.net (216.239.126.224) 134.494 ms 134.146 ms 134.133 ms
14 gamefaqs-www-vip1.phx2.cbsig.net (64.30.228.84) 132.733 ms 132.515 ms 132.983 ms

It is strange though that people on different ISP's are having issues.

Paul

BTBroadband - Ultrafast 2 330 Mbps (down), 50 Mbps (up) FVA
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Standard User Woolwich
(committed) Tue 01-May-18 21:29:25
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
No, not a PC but a Mac. But I see the same trouble when using my iPad.

I�ll investigate more if the issues persists overnight. Odd how you can see sites but your traceroutes look like mine.

Too late now and to make it worst, I can�t get to Netflix...
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-May-18 21:32:43
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


[re: bobble_bob] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by bobble_bob:
https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Broadband/Terrib...

Someone over on the TT forums having similar issues

Yeah, just checked my PS4 and XBOne and they all are fine.

Paul

BTBroadband - Ultrafast 2 330 Mbps (down), 50 Mbps (up) FVA
TBB Speedtest IPv4 | TBB Speedtest IPv6 | Ookla Speedtest | Linksys WRT 3200 ACM (BQM)
Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Tue 01-May-18 21:34:25
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Re: Is the Internet broke (in parts)?


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Will trying flushing DNS, but would this effect other devices if it was a routing issue?
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