+1. The post referred to is veiled Anti-semitism

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

+1. The post referred to is veiled Anti-semitism

Lol it didn�t take long for accusations of �Anti-semitism� to crop up. Some are saying ECI are no better/worse than Huawei wrt spying, nothing at all to do with with anti-semitism.

It's not funny! Shame you are unable to distinguish between the legitimate technical discussion of the OP and the ensuing racism.

Ok let�s get serious then:

Racism is wrong plain & simple, however criticising Huawei/China is nothing to do with racism.

Likewise criticising ECI/Israel is nothing to do with racism/anti-semitism.

Is that clear enough for you?

As for the OP, he is giving out the impression that ALL Huawei kit is being removed which is utter rubbish. It�s just core stuff but of course it sounds more �sensationalist� if you say (deliberately?) that it includes Huawei FTTC cabs as well.

Edited by deleted (Sat 08-Dec-18 09:23:50)

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Racism is wrong plain & simple, however criticising Huawei/China is nothing to do with racism.

Likewise criticising ECI/Israel is nothing to do with racism/anti-semitism.

To pick up on jabuzzard's point, there are good reasons for exercising caution with kit from China.

There are no more reasons to distrust kit from Israel than there is to distrust kit from France or Belgium, unless you know otherwise?

Edited by Oliver341 (Sun 09-Dec-18 14:18:28)

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Racism is wrong plain & simple, however criticising Huawei/China is nothing to do with racism.

Likewise criticising ECI/Israel is nothing to do with racism/anti-semitism.

To pick up on jabuzzard's point, there are good reasons for exercising caution with kit from China.

There are no more reasons to distrust kit from Israel than there is to distrust kit from France or Belgium, unless you know otherwise?

My reply was to the poster who was howling "anti-semitism!" & "racism!". I was simply pointing out that criticising an Israeli company - as one or two have already done in this thread - does not equate to anti-semitism.

Personally I don't trust any of them, however they are more than welcome to 'spy' on me, they will find I lead a very boring life

Edited by deleted (Sun 09-Dec-18 15:05:49)

Anyway, do any BT Group businesses have ECI kit in the core network? Where Huawei is being slowly removed. Starting several years ago. The cabinets are not an issue, as has been pointed out a few times, but is where this argument started.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

My reply was to the poster who was howling "anti-semitism!" & "racism!". I was simply pointing out that criticising an Israeli company - as one or two have already done in this thread - does not equate to anti-semitism.

Except holding an Israeli company to a higher standard than a company from say France or the USA does as I pointed out fit the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism.

By equating a company from a communist dictatorship with close ties to the leaders to a company from a democratic country that was for a significant time a publicly traded company (currently private equity funds own it) does I am afraid equate to anti-semitism because you are holding ECI Telecom to a higher standard than say Cisco, Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson, Nokia Networks etc.

I don't get all this panic over Chinese IT hardware, after all, the Government is getting a Chinese Nuclear Power Station

Which China will be able explode at will .