In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

There's not a huge dfference between BT Wholesale (whom BT Retail use) and TalkTalk networks. Both will provide similar speeds and latency assuming there's no congestion anywhere.

If TalkTalk will bring FTTP to you within the next 12 months, then it it might be better to wait until its ready and move directly to that instead of moving to TalkTalk FTTC first - their FTTC services run on 18 month min terms.

Their 1 Gig down/up service is £25 pm, around the same price as their 80/20 FTTC service:

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/ufo/broadband

That sounds good

My aim is to hopefully move to TalkTalks FTTC while they finish rolling it out in my area to avoid having to pay BTs out of contract charges or taking out another 18 month contract with BT, and switching via a cashback site for some cashback.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

But haven�t previous providers shown that the �pile it high, and sell it cheap� model doesn�t equate to good product .......

I wonder how much bandwidth is being allocated for the backhaul ?

Thats what I was mainly concerned about, I don't think theres much point having a gigabit connection if it turns out it gets latency of 100ms+ to eu servers and only getting 50mb to servers having a gigabit connection as well

Mainly wanting to find out if TalkTalks FTTC network is of a good quality, as I'm guessing the TalkTalk UFO network is probably run of the same network after the last bit of the connection to the house over ADSL/FTTC/FTTP.

Edited by deleted (Sun 07-Apr-19 14:30:19)

In that case best thing to do would be to keep your current BT FTTC line active and then once TalkTalk FTTP is available, take out their FTTP service on a monthly rolling contract @£33 pm - which is still a great price for a 1 Gig service. Only cancel your FTTC service if you�re happy with TalkTalk FTTP.

I have used TT fibre 80/20 for five years now, the only PL I have had is when my MKIII faceplate socket started to die, no fault of the service.

Latency is great with next to no jitter, synced throughput day and night and I have never seen any congestion as yet.

I have however never used their routers so I can not comment on those.

I have not needed to but I would use their forum for customer service not their phone contact.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

In that case best thing to do would be to keep your current BT FTTC line active and then once TalkTalk FTTP is available, take out their FTTP service on a monthly rolling contract @£33 pm - which is still a great price for a 1 Gig service. Only cancel your FTTC service if you�re happy with TalkTalk FTTP.

Thats a good idea, I'll look into doing that if I can't come to a conclusion before I order the service.

In reply to a post by TiMeTraVeLeR:

I have used TT fibre 80/20 for five years now, the only PL I have had is when my MKIII faceplate socket started to die, no fault of the service.

Latency is great with next to no jitter, synced throughput day and night and I have never seen any congestion as yet.

I have however never used their routers so I can not comment on those.

I have not needed to but I would use their forum for customer service not their phone contact.

Brilliant, thanks for your insight

I've just plugged in a random York address (in their FTTP area) on TalkTalk's website and it shows the following:

https://i.postimg.cc/5yPRv6BT/Talk-Talk-FTTP.jpg

As they guarantee a minimum of 450 Mbps, its a bit of a no-brainer going for it. Even 45% of 1 Gig @ £25 pm is a great price and a significant step up on your current 80/20 FTTC.

TBH I don't think any FTTP ISP is going to offer you guaranteed 1 Gig speeds 24/7/365, unless going for a dedicated leased line FTTP service costing £1000s.

They also offer a 'Great Connection Guarantee' so its pretty much a risk free signup:

In reference to www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/ufo/broadband:

Great Connection Guarantee: You can cancel your UFO contract within 30 days of your line being connected provided that you cancel by calling 0800 230 0219. You will be charged for the period prior to your cancellation. This does not affect your cooling off period. Offer does not apply to existing customers.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

I've just plugged in a random York address (in their FTTP area) on TalkTalk's website and it shows the following:

https://i.postimg.cc/5yPRv6BT/Talk-Talk-FTTP.jpg

As they guarantee a minimum of 450 Mbps, its a bit of a no-brainer going for it. Even 45% of 1 Gig @ £25 pm is a great price and a significant step up on your current 80/20 FTTC.

TBH I don't think any FTTP ISP is going to offer you guaranteed 1 Gig speeds 24/7/365, unless going for a dedicated leased line FTTP service costing £1000s.

They also offer a 'Great Connection Guarantee' so its pretty much a risk free signup:

In reference to www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/ufo/broadband:

Great Connection Guarantee: You can cancel your UFO contract within 30 days of your line being connected provided that you cancel by calling 0800 230 0219. You will be charged for the period prior to your cancellation. This does not affect your cooling off period. Offer does not apply to existing customers.

Excellent, I'll order it when it becomes available to order in my area, thanks

I was with TT Fibre for 18 months. Pings were always stable and I always got full line speed, 24/7. Zero downtime during the 18 months.

The ping was about 1ms higher on TT compared to BTw. Jitter always very low.

No IPV6 support at all when I was with TT. Not sure if that has changed now?

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

No IPV6 support at all when I was with TT. Not sure if that has changed now?

No, TalkTalk are the only major ISP not to announce their plans for IPv6.