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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sun 02-Jun-19 09:18:56
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Sure, I was in the US most of last year and A&T had already switched off 2G entirely. Verizon had refarmed much of their 2G network to 4G, to the extent they have now enabled GSM only handsets (their 2G/3G is CDMA not GSM) which can only get a signal on Verizon with 4G, so many people roaming the United States with 4G-LTE as their only option.

The way the US have rolled out networks, using 600/700MHz, means 4G can get better coverage and range than 2G.

T-Mobile US only has vestigial 2G service in many populated areas e.g. New York City, with 1 5MHz frequency remaining, the rest is refarmed to 4G. This would make using 2G very unreliable, but ok as an absolute last resort.

I suspect in the UK we will disable 2G as 5G becomes more main-stream.
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(deleted) Sun 02-Jun-19 09:38:31
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Hi

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
I suspect in the UK we will disable 2G as 5G becomes more main-stream.


There will be pressure to keep 2G going for sometime, at least to 2026 which is when it is expected to refarm 2G frequencies but possibly this will be delayed. The problem is due to the smart meter roll out that due to poor decisions made at the start means it is stuck running over 2G.

Source: http://euanmearns.com/uk-smart-meters-a-ghastly-mess...

Regards

Phil
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 02-Jun-19 10:06:37
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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
I suspect in the UK we will disable 2G as 5G becomes more main-stream.

I don't. The UK is a completely different market to the US. Verizon (and Sprint) aren't worth looking at, and T-Mob US is (due to mergers, renames etc) a lot younger an operator than we have in the UK. You say T-Mob US have reduced to 1 x carrier, usually these decisions are market by market, not nationwide.

The UK doesn't need to turn off 2G, the capacity on all 3 networks will be reduced to a small amount, which Voda & O2 are in the middle of achieving already as Peter's video explains for 900mhz. EE has 2G on 1800mhz and has already created two LTE carriers, 1x20mhz and 1x10mhz in the same band. So I don't see EE needing to turn off 2G for a long time.

3G is literally going fast, down to 1 carrier (theoretical 24mbps) rather than the dual carrier (theoretical 42mbps) that was popular in Europe when the US was rolling out LTE.

I suspect the 3G turn off is stalled until enough phones (probably mostly Android due to the firmware issues) are able to make reliable VoLTE calls. Once enough are running reliably, then 3G can go, and VoLTE failure fallback can go to 2G.

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Standard User amiga_dude
(newbie) Sun 02-Jun-19 11:08:23
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I can not help my self but rember watching a BBC program about 10-15 years ago it was either Horizon or Panorama anyway. It was about people say they getting cancer for mobile masks. They explain that such a phenomena was not happing near Radio/TV masks, in fact Radio/TV masks are magnitude more powerful wattage then mobile masks.

This is good bit, they was village that was going on about this new mobile mask that had been there for 2 years. The locals said there was a spike in the number children having leukemia since instalation of this new mobile mask. Now here good bit's:-
1) The number of leukemia cases in that area was within national average.
2) But they didn't know that the mobile mask had never been connected to electricity supply. It other words it had never been used as it had no power.
Standard User CarlTSpeak
(newbie) Sun 02-Jun-19 13:07:00
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May I ask why you're posting on here asking for information rather than checking with experts?

There's been a fair amount of research by professionals who know what they're talking about on this and related matters. I appreciate that we've had enough of experts but perhaps that'd be a better place to look for reliable, evidence-based information than the opinions of randoms on a forum?

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