In reply to a post by broadband66:

You couldn't watch UHD 15 years ago.

I didn't say we could, you asked what we used to do 10 - 15 years ago i answered basically what we do now but slower., i don't think that statement is wrong.

You do realise that many so called 4K films are artificially up rated due to them not having been filmed in 4K.

Yes.

Strange that you are giving me all this info yet you are the one that blindly bougt a UHD TV then decided it wasn't for you.

You seem to be trying to convince me i do not need UHD well i have seen it working and i am impressed, i may not need it but i do want it.

4K is pretty useless on small devices, so all this "my children watch on 10 devices each" is a waste of time

Where is the quote above from and who said anything about watching UHD on small devices, why would i want to do that we have a decent size TV in the lounge and my son has one in his bedroom being able to watch on a phone is handy but its not the way i view Netflix etc.

Driving for a living, through stunning scenery, is a job

EDIT FOR ACCURACY -
Driving for a living, through stunning scenery is a pleasure even when Fred and Doris are driving along the lanes at 15 MPH enjoying the view.

Getting out in it and enjoying it is a different kettle of fish.

We have to take regular breaks so of course we "get out in it" you may walk miles to enjoy the scenery i can park (within reason) wherever i want and can get out and enjoy the fresh air and scenery whenever i want, you may think you have to be a crag rat to get pleasure from the lakes etc i am telling you you are wrong.

You being a crag rat is an assumption but as you have made several throughout this thread i think i am allowed one.

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Thu 03-Jun-21 20:07:02)

In reply to a post by nsmith007:

Hi, post code of the property is L40 6** . Thanks

It looks like you're in the planned FTTP coverage area:

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fibre-first

For what it’s worth according to OR F/F Build maps, Omskirk and the surrounding areas are already Work In Progress and Skelmersdale is In Plan…depends exactly where the OP is….

If their forecast plans are reasonably accurate a 3 year bet on leased line might not be smart. Unless OP really, really wants a LL

I wouldn’t even countenance an FoD quote in this case.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

I wouldn’t even countenance an FoD quote in this case.

Openreach might not even issue one. I approached Cerberus for an FTTPoD quote last year, the reply from Openreach was 'FTTP is already planned at this location'.

Sure enough, my exchange appeared on the next FTTP build plan a few weeks later.

In reply to a post by jpm:

I'm going to advise against the leased line. EAD 100 is £140 per month, connection is £2200, so on a 3-year term your provider is incurring monthly costs from Openreach of £200 (inc. VAT prices), which only gets you a link from your premises back to the exchange - they then have costs of backhaul and actually making money off you. I wouldn't expect there to be more than maybe £15-20 of wriggle room on the quote you've been given already.

An observation on historic EAD prices from Openreach...

After continuing and quite drastic reductions over the last decade, prices appear to have plateaued in the last revision for both EAD100 (from £4,400 to £1,600 over ten years) and EAD1000 (from £9,500 to £1,940 over ten years).

In fact looks like EAD100 has actually increased slightly.

When I put the full address into the OR website I get this statement: "At the moment, we don't have any plans to upgrade your area to full fibre, but provide your contact details and we'll keep you up to date if things change - we add new locations into our build plan every three months."

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet. You stated we do now what we did many years ago. You couldn't watch 4K UHD 15 years ago, even slowly, so YOUR statement was wrong.

I was originally commenting about users in general saying that they have 2 adults and 4 children requiring fast internet because of 5 devices each but by using it correctly there isn't a need for super fast broadband.

My previous telly was an HD Ready Plasma therefore only showed 720p and as HD 1080p is the norm then the upgrade was obvious.

You have your ideas and I have mine.

Not sure if you’re in the purple or amber section of this map. OR still do skip entire streets etc.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet.

If i have its probably due to some random guy on a forum telling me i am wasting my money getting UHD T.V and telling me i need to get out more!

You stated we do now what we did many years ago. You couldn't watch 4K UHD 15 years ago, even slowly, so YOUR statement was wrong.

Erm no i didn't, i actually said "Similar to what they do now but a bit slower" i didn't know you were in pedant mode and wanted me to break down everything we do now that we didn't do then.

I was originally commenting about users in general saying that they have 2 adults and 4 children requiring fast internet because of 5 devices each but by using it correctly there isn't a need for super fast broadband.

Well obviously these plebs are not as up to speed as you in the workings of the internet and devices that connect to it and instead of messing about trying to get 5 devices working at the same time on a 10Mbps connection they would rather have a useable speed so they all work without messing about.

My previous telly was an HD Ready Plasma therefore only showed 720p and as HD 1080p is the norm then the upgrade was obvious.
You have your ideas and I have mine.

I have mine but it would appear from this thread you don't think mine are right.






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Edited by Jack_Hackett (Fri 04-Jun-21 16:44:27)

This makes interesting reading, 87% of all UK homes are on more than a 10Mbps connection i amnot surprised those on 10Mbps or less are not happy.

I have provided a link so you can read the full article.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52646811

The main body of the report, which covers the data from 2019, found that nearly three-quarters of UK homes have what Ofcom considers "superfast" broadband packages of 30Mpbs or higher.

Real-world connection speeds are slightly lower, with 69% of people achieving 30Mbps or more. That includes the 17% of homes on 100Mbps or higher, and 3% achieve more than 300Mbps.

On the lower end, 13% of homes are still on connections of 10mbps or less, and another 18% have speeds between 10-30mbps.