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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 12-Jul-21 18:27:39
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Re: Cancelling my Talk Talk account early


[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
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It's £15 a month for 40/10 on FTTP or FTTC.
Find anything close to that and you're doing well.

It's £20 a month for 80/20 on FTTP or FTTC.
On FTTP nothing comes close.

Both come with unlimited minutes to UK landlines and mobiles.

Your definition of "isn't really worth it" isn't the same as mine.
Jumping through cashback hoops to save £0.17 a month. The cashback isn't guaranteed either.
BT Essentials also comes with no early termination fees which can be great for people on the uncertainty of benefits.
They don't insist on direct debit either or charge more for paying by other means.

I agree the OP should see out the contract they signed.
I disagree BT Essentials isn't good value.

I've assisted a couple neighbours who were on BT FTTP to regrade to BT Home Essentials to save £10 and £15 a month each.
Both passed the eligibility check immediately and were regraded within 24 hours.
No router delivery charge for existing customers either.
I think it's brilliant value.


BT Home Essentials isn't including FTTP? It only for FTTC
Standard User Realalemadrid
(committed) Mon 12-Jul-21 19:05:50
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Re: Cancelling my Talk Talk account early


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I am sure you are wrong, it can be FTTC or FTTP. On the checker if it is FTTP there is a single speed value of 74Mbps quoted on the 80Mbps service instead of a range of speeds which will vary according to line length on FTTC.

Home Essentials
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Mon 12-Jul-21 19:07:10
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Re: Cancelling my Talk Talk account early


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BT Home Essentials isn't including FTTP? It only for FTTC


It definitely does.
I'm typing from an FTTP line on BT Home Essentials right now.

https://ibb.co/s5JBfwK

In reply to a post by Realalemadrid:
I am sure you are wrong, it can be FTTC or FTTP. On the checker if it is FTTP there is a single speed value of 74Mbps quoted on the 80Mbps service instead of a range of speeds which will vary according to line length on FTTC.


Exactly this.

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 12-Jul-21 19:18:24)


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Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(member) Tue 13-Jul-21 03:12:02
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Re: Cancelling my Talk Talk account early


[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by j0hn83:
It's £15 a month for 40/10 on FTTP or FTTC.
Find anything close to that and you're doing well.

It's £20 a month for 80/20 on FTTP or FTTC.
On FTTP nothing comes close.

Both come with unlimited minutes to UK landlines and mobiles.

Your definition of "isn't really worth it" isn't the same as mine.
Jumping through cashback hoops to save £0.17 a month. The cashback isn't guaranteed either.
BT Essentials also comes with no early termination fees which can be great for people on the uncertainty of benefits.
They don't insist on direct debit either or charge more for paying by other means.

I agree the OP should see out the contract they signed.
I disagree BT Essentials isn't good value.

I've assisted a couple neighbours who were on BT FTTP to regrade to BT Home Essentials to save £10 and £15 a month each.
Both passed the eligibility check immediately and were regraded within 24 hours.
No router delivery charge for existing customers either.
I think it's brilliant value.
If indeed Home essentials is available for FTTP as well then it is a great deal. But the OP is looking to switch to FTTC.

Jumping through cashbacks to save 17 pence perhaps isn't worth it. But there are deals where you may be able to save a little more than that. This way you won't need home essentials.

I managed to get £75 cash back to my bank account switching to Plusnet a couple of years ago. It was a good deal, which at that time was cheaper than a lot of deals.

I respect your assistance in guiding your neighbours to regrade to FTTP BT Home Essentials. They are perhaps lucky to have FTTP.

I am mentioning these calculations just to make those aware or more pragmatic shall I say. All options should be considered and assessed carefully, because you never know what better deal may be available to you (at least on FTTC). If you emotionally make a very quick decision thinking it is the best available deal, some better deal may be lurking around the corner and by the time you made that quick switch, it'll be too late.
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Tue 13-Jul-21 14:11:55
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Re: Cancelling my Talk Talk account early


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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
In reply to a post by Airlane:
Can I simply stop paying TT and take up a contract with BT?


Technically you can yes.

It will damage your credit rating though and Talktalk will pass the debt on to a debt collection agency.


Which is like answering the question "Can I rob a bank?" with "Technically you can yes".

If you walk away from your contract with Talktalk, you will have a debt with them - the value of the remainder of the contract. The debt will rapidly mount as Talktalk pass it on to a debt collection agency, who will add hundreds of pounds in their own fees. Eventually you will likely get a County Court Judgement against you. The debt collection agency could send in the bailiffs to recover the debt; there are scenarios in which you could end up in jail.

Don't do it. Stick with the contract you signed up to, and leave at the end. For the sake of £5 per month, it's not worth ruining your life.
Debt is CIVIL law unless you Owe GOVT But debts to private companies or individuals are not punishable by prison yet, though the road the uk is going down currently that may change

But yes they will want the payment for any remaining unused period of your contract this maybe the normal price or a reduced price

Edited by tommy45 (Tue 13-Jul-21 14:16:38)

Standard User pluralist
(committed) Tue 13-Jul-21 14:41:04
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Re: Cancelling my Talk Talk account early


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Debt is CIVIL law unless you Owe GOVT But debts to private companies or individuals are not punishable by prison yet, though the road the uk is going down currently that may change
It can however already end up with imprisonment.
But yes they will want the payment for any remaining unused period of your contract this maybe the normal price or a reduced price
Ofcom requires that that the early leaving cost should reflect only the costs incurred by the provider due to the early termination, not the costs plus loss of profit.

Connections: OnePlus 8 Pro, 4G max 165Mbps down, 24Mbps up on Three Mobile, and B311 4G router, tbb tests normally 35-45Mpbs down, 65Mbps off-peak, 9-24 up.
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 16-Jul-21 10:39:49
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Re: Cancelling my Talk Talk account early


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Exactly: a mid contract price rise which was specifically advertised as not going to happen. TT partly covered itself by including a clause which allowed it to increase prices at any time 'for business reasons'. But doesn't that contradict the first claim?

Previous contract is water under the bridge. Hopefully all the posts above have convinced you not to simply stop paying for your current service without coming to some prior arrangement or agreement with them, lest your credit score/report will be negatively affected. Which will doubtless lead to longer term issues taking out any future services or getting any sort of credit. It’s really not worth the short term gain for the long term pain.
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