In reply to a post by MHC:

And a lot of alarms or alerting systems are moving to IP now. The providers of care alarms and alerts will just update their units as the need arises or on failures.

I think that answers my Redcare question

Redcare are already moving to various options and have units capable of working on different IP and VoIP services

A three year old comment from Redcare - it has moved on and products are there now.

https://www.redcare.bt.com/news-and-events/news/digi...

In reply to a post by pluralist:

There are big implications for people with alarm pulls and/or fall detectors.

It’s the stuff that’s been out of maintenance contracts for years, partially forgotten stuff that has fallen off some property managers radar like a backup lift phone system or the like….

You may recall, just over twenty years ago we had something called Y2K, when the modern world was going to crash to a close on the strike of midnight, or some such tosh 🤣 (admission I may have worked on the odd Y2K programme or three)

Good to know, I wasn't aware it had changed as I moved away from Redcare at home 14 years ago.

Who’s the cheesy dude in that picture ? 😳

It is not Albert Ring!

Not in a power cut. Which is when falls are more likely.

In reply to a post by MHC:

A three year old comment from Redcare - it has moved on and products are there now.

https://www.redcare.bt.com/news-and-events/news/digi...

More than three years, as he says the testing facility will open in spring 2018.

He also says:

What is happening about the copper - is it being removed?

No. Digital phone services will be carried on a mix of fibre and copper networks.

Well he's right about how things were in 2017, but not right about how they will be in 2022 with the hugely accelerated of FTTP rollout by Openreach.

This one of his FAQs is interesting as well:

The Classic & GSM products are reliant on the physical copper infrastructure, and not the PSTN network. This means they use the copper link from customer premises to the exchange rather than the type of network BT runs over it (be that PSTN or IP).

I wonder if that means Redcare copper circuits do have exchange-supplied power? (Or at least will retain it once PSTN is removed).

Still doesn't answer the FTTP question. And what about the reduction in market share with the considerable expansion of altnets? I wonder if they/BT will make it available on them? I see they already advertise mobile network connectivity. Independent of the customer mobile network(s).

Think classis Redcare used the metallic path as an alarm circuit only, there was no power from the Redcare equipment .
When ADSL 1st came out it wasn't available on lines with Redcare. Only later did it become available due to a change in the exchange jumpering schedule.