Not around here, they seem to be prioritising rolling out FTTP to areas that can order FTTC not ADSL.

I think that's why. There are a lot of areas around me that have FTTP where FTTC speeds are already 80/20, the takeup in those areas is incredibly low compared to areas that were either only able to order slow ADSL or both slow ADSL/VDSL.

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But is that simply because those on FTTC don't see the need to upgrade?

Sorry, I don't think I made myself clear earlier.

Within our current customer base, we sample monthly what products customer can have v's what they have now.

What we are seeing are "ADSL only" areas becoming FTTP enabled, quicker, than we those who are in FTTC coverages areas. This especially appears to be the case where current FTTC speeds are 60Mbps+.

Therefore we are seeing evidence that Openreach do seem to be giving, what historically would be ruled out "non commercially viable" areas as much consideration as larger built up areas.

I think the problem isn't the rollout it's people in general thinking that their area, wherever that is should be prioritised,most folk seem to think the area they live in is more needy than elsewhere:-human nature

No 56k dial up perhaps from BT?

You need to remember that BT, including OR, have been shackled. In the late 80's BT wanted to run co-ax to provide TV and oice services, They tried again in the 90's and even now they are shackled by have charges capped at level where they cannot make a return.

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In reply to a post by sheephouse:

I think the problem is that there is a perception that the areas getting FTTP are those that already have FTTC, and the ADSL only corners of the country are being left until last (as usual, and for the usual reasons).

I think the perception is not far off the truth, Openreach commercial rollouts are done based on if they are financially viable as they are a private company, so even in Fibre First areas not all will get full fibre. If people have FTTC then they do have the option for full fibre if they want to pay although we all know its not cheap.

I live in a small town close to Bath. About 12000 people. I moved here just over ten years ago and the service was FTTC. Not only has it not been upgraded to FTTP, but they have now run out of space in the cabinet so it's no longer possible to get VDSL any more. Openreach have no plans at the moment to upgrade. There are no other companies in the area.

In reply to a post by MHC:

You need to remember that BT, including OR, have been shackled. In the late 80's BT wanted to run co-ax to provide TV and oice services, They tried again in the 90's and even now they are shackled by have charges capped at level where they cannot make a return.

You mean that BT were told they couldn't exercise their usual greed.

I remember the days when BT used to mercilessly drain the public of every penny they could. When I first started using the internet my phone bill was £900 a month. Even back then it was impossible to justify that level of charging.

You don't say what speed you're currently getting.

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You mean that BT were told they couldn't exercise their usual greed.

I remember the days when BT used to mercilessly drain the public of every penny they could. When I first started using the internet my phone bill was £900 a month. Even back then it was impossible to justify that level of charging.

A good opening post but now nonsense about greed, its a regular occurrence with those frustrated with their broadband speed.