In reply to a post by D11187:

I live in a small town close to Bath. About 12000 people. I moved here just over ten years ago and the service was FTTC. Not only has it not been upgraded to FTTP, but they have now run out of space in the cabinet so it's no longer possible to get VDSL any more. Openreach have no plans at the moment to upgrade. There are no other companies in the area.

12,000 people - and every single FTTC cabinet is showing totally full?

Perhaps if you post up the exchange and cabinet number details here, so some kindly person in the know can check what the expansion/upgrade plans are for those cabinets?

Not everyone, I certainly don't think that. We can already receive decent speeds via VDSL, so it doesn't really make sense why we can get FTTP, but properties just down the road on either slow ADSL or both ADSL & VDSL, can't!

In reply to a post by Grimers:

I think that's why. There are a lot of areas around me that have FTTP where FTTC speeds are already 80/20, the takeup in those areas is incredibly low compared to areas that were either only able to order slow ADSL or both slow ADSL/VDSL.

Yah. I've always felt that FTTP is future proofing and that the future is not here yet. A good FTTC connection is fine even for a family with a couple of kids. The kids might moan a bit about having to wait ten minutes before their game has downloaded but sensible parents will just ignore their moaning and present it as useful life lesson about patience and 'good things come to those who wait'

I will jump to FTTP as soon as I can have it but that's just because I'm a geek. I will probably go for the lowest 'faster than FTTC' package. I really can't justify ultra-fast speeds (hardly ever max out my current 18/68 of throughput.

In reply to a post by Andrue:

Yah. I've always felt that FTTP is future proofing and that the future is not here yet. A good FTTC connection is fine even for a family with a couple of kids.

I really can't justify ultra-fast speeds (hardly ever max out my current 18/68 of throughput.

I think you've answered your own query there. I agree if you have an excellent (as you do) FTTC connection then there is in most cases no need to change. But most of us have or had very asymetric connections. My "upto 80" line ran at 45 downlink, but dropped from 9 Mbps to 4 Mbps over the 5 years I owned it. My parents "upto 80" line runs at 50 down and 7 up.

I moved to cable, and they are waiting for CityFibre to reach their road.

The reason for needing upload? Home working!

In reply to a post by D11187:

my internet service is still exactly the same as it was ten years ago. FOR HEAVENS SAKE openreach, get a damn move on. Why are you so darn slow at upgrading peoples service? ( rhetorical question ).

We have FTTC and get the speeds below, there is 3 of us in the house and when we are all online we never have any speed issues, does the average household really need more than that at the moment?

I was the first connection on our cabinet which was enabled under BDUK in January 2015. As we are on an approx 1KM line down a country lane our speeds have never been above 24Mbps down or 1.6Mbps up. As you can see this has deteriorated over the years and as there are no spare pairs to move to it is what it is until Fttp comes along.

The low upload is what kills our connection and is quickly saturated when the kids are at home.

When i first moved to my current house only ADSL was available, it was usable, but only just.
Then FTTC came along and i jumped onboard strait away lol. I was a very early mover to FTTC in my street.
I wasn't a member here at the time so have no records to show, but i know for a fact i was getting 75 down and much the same up as i do now. Below is what i get now.



Obviously the drop in download speed is down to contention/crosstalk. But to be honest, it's not bad at all.
Being the person i am though, i would love to have FTTP Of course OR will never roll out FTTP in my street............because we already get what we do. BUT..............and this can be biggie................Wimpy want to build 330 houses less than 300m from my house. In a statement they made ages ago now, they promised any new builds they do will have a minimum of 2 FTTP supplies to any property. In my mind, any fibre layed to that site has to come past my house.....................................happy days ahead.

Being the person i am though, i would love to have FTTP Of course OR will never roll out FTTP in my street............because we already get what we do.

I believe you are wrong. It’s coming, maybe via an Altnet, maybe Openreach. You might have to wait a bit, but I’ll have a bet with you now that it does happen.

I got a rock solid 80/20 sync on FTTC, can get Virgin here If I wanted too, but they still put g.Fast on my cab, and now I have a rock solid 330/50 sync. At the end of our road there are a couple of new developments which are both FTTP.

I just don’t believe your theory pans out.

There is, you remove copper out of the equation, which means less likelihood of a fault, interference, etc.

True. The main reason we're moving to FTTP is future-proofing, and faster downloading/uploading, as well as just out of interest (me being fascinated with broadband). But, most of the time we won't make use of the bandwidth.