Thanks ian72

I just checked the coverage for BT mobile, and it shows '5G outdoor only' but outdoor + indoor for 4G.
So they might be on the possible list.

Coverage for Three shows outdoor only, even for 4G. So that rules out them, and some of the MVNO operators.

We're not normally "switchers". I tend to be loyal to my suppliers. Had the same insurance broker since about 1987 until he retired a couple of years ago, and always use the same butcher, the same painter, etc. Life is too short to waste it chasing a fiver a month. Problem is that can have its downsides when the supplier does not treat you with the same courtesy.

Anyway, we're going to check out Vodafone reception tonight. There's a few sim only deals from them right now. We shall see.

BT should be the same as EE as BT bought the EE network. So, moving from EE to BT is primarily a billing change and whatever "over the top" services are provided (ie EE have "smart" add ons that you wouldn't get with BT). If you are a BT customer for broadband then you would get £5 a month off the normal price. Also, if you have one of the BT Halo products then that would get you double the data.

I have BT Halo broadband and currently get unlimited calls, texts and 12GB of data for £9 a month for BT mobile (and the discounts are also applied to any additional SIMS you might want to get).

In reply to a post by clyde123:

Anyway, we're going to check out Vodafone reception tonight. There's a few sim only deals from them right now. We shall see.

If you are considering using the Vodaphone network look at Lebara - including the deals negotiated by https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/mobiles/cheap-sim-...

You should be able to check whether BT's data costs are going up or down, depending on technology improvements over the years and customer data usage habits.

Having a skim read down the BT annual financial report, revenue and profit is broadly similar, the main new expenditurs is on 5G spectrum and FTTP deployment.

If anything, the H1 2022 Finance presentation says Operating costs were actually down 5%. While operational improvements led to £500mpa of savings, while another £1bn of cost savings are targeted within 24 months. Sales stayed ~ flat at the same time. So it is a fair comparison.

Not one slide says "higher costs due to higher customer data use". I believe that if such things were a serious financial concern, it would be at least mentioned in passing within the finance reports.

aaaaand also, in terms of running costs, FTTP is a generally cheaper to run from an energy perspective. So additional reduced running costs can be assumed there.

From recollection is it 20-40% less energy consumption?

I expect it may be quite some time until the energy savings cover the capital cost of the FTTC to FTTP switch (although of course the FTTP switch is a long term investment, and in medium term will be needed to remain competitive in terms of speed).

Bt give me unlimited data for a fixed monthly price and now they want to up the prices..... but you gave me unlimted ..... unlimited data .......!

Edited by beefcakechipz (Tue 01-Feb-22 21:59:58)

You ticked the box saying you had read and accepted the Ts & Cs.

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

To quote BBC news:

"BT has said most customers will see bills rise by more than 9% from the end of March as households are squeezed by cost of living pressures.

The telecoms giant said broadband and phone bills will jump by 9.3% following a "dramatic increase" in data usage over the last few years.

Affected customers will pay an extra £3.50 a month on average from 31 March."

Should they just not charge the customers who are using more data rather than everyone?

I really dont know how ofcom can hold their head high, the rampant retail inflation in the broadband industry, but most of their regulation is just on the wholesale side.

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