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Standard User pluralist
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 25-Mar-22 18:06:28
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Re: ERIS MEDIA


[re: Brunel] [link to this post]
 
The wayleave negotiations could be complicated by the fact I implied, that ERIS could cease to exist before long. Openreach might not be too happy negotiating with them.

I suggest anyone who hasn't looks them up at Companies House as I did, and examone the Accounts PDFs (for free) and the boss man's existing other company and the " dissolved" list.

One thing we can be sure of, the broadband prices are unlikely to be "competitive"!

How are you posting here anyway? ADSLx, or mobile?

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Fri 25-Mar-22 18:07:51
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Re: ERIS MEDIA


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
In reply to a post by Brunel:
According to my landlords agent, Simarc, Eris Media are handling the wayleave request from Openreach.

So Openreach have outsourced wayleave processing to them by the sounds of it.
I would say that whoever owns the land has agreed that Eris Media should handle the wayleave request. If Eris Media are not being helpful Opereach as a Telecoms company should use "Code Powers" to gain acces for their infrastructure.

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Standard User Brunel
(experienced) Fri 25-Mar-22 18:19:43
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Re: ERIS MEDIA


[re: pluralist] [link to this post]
 
How are you posting here anyway? ADSLx, or mobile?

Virgin Media installed 2018.

Would be good to have an alternative to V.M.


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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Fri 25-Mar-22 18:24:59
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Re: ERIS MEDIA


[re: Michael_Chare] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
In reply to a post by Brunel:
According to my landlords agent, Simarc, Eris Media are handling the wayleave request from Openreach.

So Openreach have outsourced wayleave processing to them by the sounds of it.
I would say that whoever owns the land has agreed that Eris Media should handle the wayleave request. If Eris Media are not being helpful Opereach as a Telecoms company should use "Code Powers" to gain acces for their infrastructure.

Code Powers? For a residential broadband wayleave - unlikely - would be seen as an abuse of code powers. If the freeholder is refusing to engage then additional recourse could be via the provisions on the newly minted Telecommunications Infrastructure (Leasehold Property) Act (TILP)

However if they’re responding / negotiating already then as it’s private property Openreach can’t just use carte blanche Code Powers in a bully boy approach. It’s still difficult.
Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Fri 25-Mar-22 21:51:08
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Re: ERIS MEDIA


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Code Powers? For a residential broadband wayleave - unlikely - would be seen as an abuse of code powers. If the freeholder is refusing to engage then additional recourse could be via the provisions on the newly minted Telecommunications Infrastructure (Leasehold Property) Act (TILP)

However if they’re responding / negotiating already then as it’s private property Openreach can’t just use carte blanche Code Powers in a bully boy approach. It’s still difficult.
The Telecommunications Infrastructure (Leasehold Property) Act inserts an amendment into the Code powers mainly to benefit Multi Dwelling buildings that may well help the OP.

Michael Chare
Standard User pluralist
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 25-Mar-22 22:40:35
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Re: ERIS MEDIA


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It sounds to me like the whole estate is "private". One leaseholder who initially sold access to VM.

The OP may or may not know whether I'm right, or whether it's just the leaseholder of their block.

In any case, I reckon ERIS is a bad bet. Nothing happened for two years, then a half million investment by someone, and most of that now gone. Unless the March 2022 accounts show a great improvement. But those aren't due till the end of December.

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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sat 26-Mar-22 06:56:21
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Re: ERIS MEDIA


[re: Michael_Chare] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Code Powers? For a residential broadband wayleave - unlikely - would be seen as an abuse of code powers. If the freeholder is refusing to engage then additional recourse could be via the provisions on the newly minted Telecommunications Infrastructure (Leasehold Property) Act (TILP)

However if they’re responding / negotiating already then as it’s private property Openreach can’t just use carte blanche Code Powers in a bully boy approach. It’s still difficult.
The Telecommunications Infrastructure (Leasehold Property) Act inserts an amendment into the Code powers mainly to benefit Multi Dwelling buildings that may well help the OP.

The TILP Act would only help if the landlord/freeholder was being unresponsive or failing to communicate with the telco. This is where there are provisions made to “get them to the table”. The big problem in the industry was unresponsive freeholders/landlords. It doesn’t sound like that’s the problem in this case.

There is nothing in TILP that expressly forces or commits the landlord/freeholder to give their permission if they are already in discussions / communicating already with the freeholder. If the freeholder refuses to give permission they generally can’t be forced to. It is after all their private property.
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