pushing to FTTP

i was chatting to someone a couple of days ago online, they don't live around here, anyway FTTP is available where they are, but they are on FTTC and get pretty good speed as they are really close to the cabinet. They told me they had a email from the provider to say they are going to connect them to FTTP and that they need to make an appointment for this, they will still pay the same price and still keep the same speed.
It seems like they are being pushed to FTTP, but they don't want it, they are halfway though their contract, so surly they could refuse this FTTP and carry on with FTTC until the end of their contract?

i am sure he said he is with vodafone.

I hope that providers are not going to do this when we get Openreach FTTP available. i know of someone who lives the other side of town on ADSL and he gets emails about updating, but that would cost them more.

Its always possible the ISP has a deal with an alt-net whose charges to the ISP are lower than Openreach charges. Getting FTTP for free on a switch from FTTC seems a sensible thing to do, a) better reliability, and b) full 80/20 service without distance issues.

I wouldn’t refuse a free upgrade, but if your friend wants to refuse, they could ask to migrate out for free.

ISPs get volume discount from Openreach so it's in their interest to sell FTTP.
Then you also get people complaining no one tells them FTTP is available and providers are not advertising it. Can't please everyone.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Its always possible the ISP has a deal with an alt-net whose charges to the ISP are lower than Openreach charges. Getting FTTP for free on a switch from FTTC seems a sensible thing to do, a) better reliability, and b) full 80/20 service without distance issues.

I wouldn’t refuse a free upgrade, but if your friend wants to refuse, they could ask to migrate out for free.

Not really a friend as such, more of an acquaintance from a group I chat in.

I am not 100% sure why he doesn't want to go FTTP, he said something about hassle, which to some degree I agree with him, which is one reason why I am not that bothered about changing.

In reply to a post by witchunt:

ISPs get volume discount from Openreach so it's in their interest to sell FTTP.
Then you also get people complaining no one tells them FTTP is available and providers are not advertising it. Can't please everyone.

it is nice to know it is available, when it comes here, it will be nice if they tell us, which I am sure zzoomm will. But people should not be pushed into it.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

it is nice to know it is available, when it comes here, it will be nice if they tell us, which I am sure zzoomm will. But people should not be pushed into it.

Existing ISPs using Openreach infrastructure won't be pushing people to zzoomm. Not all ISPs will do this, but I think they should as once the infrastructure is built, it is crazy to not use it, even if you only purchase a 40 / 10 service using it.

In reply to a post by witchunt:

ISPs get volume discount from Openreach so it's in their interest to sell FTTP.
Then you also get people complaining no one tells them FTTP is available and providers are not advertising it. Can't please everyone.

Thanks, and typical

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Existing ISPs using Openreach infrastructure won't be pushing people to zzoomm. Not all ISPs will do this, but I think they should as once the infrastructure is built, it is crazy to not use it, even if you only purchase a 40 / 10 service using it.

LOL, I realise that people will not be pushed from openreach to zzoomm
I meant I am sure zzoomm will tell us when their service is available. My brother lives where zzoomm is now available, and they have had a few leaflets dropped though their door, even had a visit.

I still have no idea what is happening here, with both open reach and zzoomm people around, saying that i have not seen openreach up here for a few days. I have seen zzoomm around the corner and the telegraph pole at the top of my road now have some gubbins on. Not come down my road yet. But they don't work at the weekend.

No doubt one day it will all be fibre, but it should still be up to the individual.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by witchunt:

ISPs get volume discount from Openreach so it's in their interest to sell FTTP.
Then you also get people complaining no one tells them FTTP is available and providers are not advertising it. Can't please everyone.

it is nice to know it is available, when it comes here, it will be nice if they tell us, which I am sure zzoomm will. But people should not be pushed into it.

The BDUK installed fibre around here has never been 'advertised' to anyone apart from BT customers, just a couple of months back a woman down road had it installed thinking she was one of first not knowing it has been available for couple of years.
We get leafleted by VM even though nearest is 5+ miles away.

Well they can't force their way in and install it without the owner agreeing. If a provider is insisting they must move from Copper to FTTP and the owner hasn't requested change then that is wrong.
Only instance would be in a copper stop/sell area and the owner wanted a new connection or change of service, but I presume that isn't the case here, and probably just a pushy sales incentive.