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Standard User cymru123
(member) Mon 18-Jul-22 10:30:20
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Re: pushing to FTTP


[re: zyborg47] [link to this post]
 
There's another Openreach programme running that makes FTTP the sole product available (FTTP Priority Exchange programme). This means that once FTTP is available by Openreach to your property in areas included in the programme a stop sell of copper based products come into effect.

To understand more any why have a look at: https://landlinesgo.digital/openreach-retiring-our-c...
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Mon 18-Jul-22 11:24:29
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Re: pushing to FTTP


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You will be forced to VOIP. Are you going to refuse that or just use your mobile?

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Standard User burble
(committed) Mon 18-Jul-22 13:39:52
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Re: pushing to FTTP


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I would note that my energy provider has been sending me letters and emails for years telling me I "need to book appointment for fitting smart meter", ain't happened yet.


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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Jul-22 13:43:39
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Re: pushing to FTTP


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In reply to a post by burble:
I would note that my energy provider has been sending me letters and emails for years telling me I "need to book appointment for fitting smart meter", ain't happened yet.
Same here, but I think its a little different in that the electricity supply is the same. With broadband there is the opportunity to get rid of the distance dependency, for the same price (if the ISP offers).

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Standard User michaelh
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 18-Jul-22 17:20:42
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Re: pushing to FTTP


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But doesn't FTTP mean that your drive gets dug up by a cowboy contactor?

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Standard User burble
(committed) Mon 18-Jul-22 17:48:22
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Re: pushing to FTTP


[re: jchamier] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by burble:
I would note that my energy provider has been sending me letters and emails for years telling me I "need to book appointment for fitting smart meter", ain't happened yet.
Same here, but I think its a little different in that the electricity supply is the same. With broadband there is the opportunity to get rid of the distance dependency, for the same price (if the ISP offers).


For myself, FTTC had poor speed and reliability, so getting FTTP was a good move, but if you have reliable FTTC then there's not so much incentive, the person in OP might have to take time off work to have it fitted, they might be concerned about having VOIP, they might not want 'Kowboy Communications' messing up the install etc. I can see why someone with a good service has no desire to change it.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Jul-22 17:58:44
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Re: pushing to FTTP


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In reply to a post by michaelh:
But doesn't FTTP mean that your drive gets dug up by a cowboy contactor?
Not always, it could be delivered from a pole, or routed sensibly by Openreach (or alt-net) staff.

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Standard User Sparx92
(newbie) Mon 18-Jul-22 19:59:45
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Re: pushing to FTTP


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Has the ISP made any actual mention of enforcing a new contract term?
Standard User michaelh
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 18-Jul-22 20:18:30
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No poles here - it's all underground

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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Mon 18-Jul-22 20:41:19
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i was chatting to someone a couple of days ago online, they don't live around here, anyway FTTP is available where they are, but they are on FTTC and get pretty good speed as they are really close to the cabinet. They told me they had a email from the provider to say they are going to connect them to FTTP and that they need to make an appointment for this, they will still pay the same price and still keep the same speed.
It seems like they are being pushed to FTTP, but they don't want it, they are halfway though their contract, so surly they could refuse this FTTP and carry on with FTTC until the end of their contract?

They could - but equally, the provider that wants them to switch them to FTTP shouldn't require the property owner to take out a new contract in this situation (unless they choose to do so).

Note that if they are in a copper stop sell area, but choose to remain on copper, they won't be able to cease and reprovide, nor migrate to another provider, nor regrade to a different speed. In that situation, any new or modified service *must* be provided on FTTP - copper orders will be rejected by Openreach.

FTTP is coming sooner or later, so might as well get on the bandwagon now.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:
I hope that providers are not going to do this when we get Openreach FTTP available. i know of someone who lives the other side of town on ADSL and he gets emails about updating, but that would cost them more.

For the low-cost providers, the prices I've seen are typically £1 per month extra for FTTC over ADSL. Of course, "every little counts".

What might happen in the end is that the ADSL service will be withdrawn, i.e. at end of contract the provider will decline to renew, and will then serve notice of termination.
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