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In reply to a post by clyde123:

If we ruled out the phone line as a reliable internet source, then it would make sense to put more effort and resources into mobile internet, maybe a good 4G router or something along those lines.

The 4G router would also be off in a power cut. However using a charged-up mobile phone as a hotspot works well until it goes flat. I used to run my laptop + iPad + the internet connection for my smart tv that way. Obviously not the tv in a power cut.

There are of course cheap pocket-sized devices for charging mobile phones widely available.

Have you not thought about keeping a few cans of petrol around and just sitting in the car with the engine running with a 12V to 230V transformer then your good to go till everyone gets this idea. Heat, electric, and better signal as the walls aren't as thick, only till the signal drops when the mast dies, then you just drive to the next one.

Clyde123

Ignoring wind related issues BTW based services from the exchange plus all OR from the Cab and FTTP Should be up for a couple of hours.

Services from the Cab are likely to be the shortest up time as the batteries will need changing out and OR will not be able to do all those in an area.

Other providers from the exchange may not stay up. I do not know what power backups FTTP Altnets use.

Many of the newer Mobile masts have batteries but I do not know how long they will last. Older ones often don't have batteries.

UPS for the router looks like the route to go but charge the mobile if you get notice of a 3 hour planned cut.

Not that, but I had certainly thought of charging phones in the car, with or without the engine running. I considered including that in my post, but it was getting too full of options and I think the (already popular) portable chargers are more realistic.

The situation would change radically of course if Putin goes through with his idea of nuking a couple of our cities, or as now in Ukraine taking out our mainstream generators by less dramatic measures .

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The situation would change radically of course if Putin goes through with his idea of nuking a couple of our cities, or as now in Ukraine taking out our mainstream generators by less dramatic measures .

If London is taken out I am close enough to be impacted so would certainly solve the issue for me.

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If London is taken out I am close enough to be impacted so would certainly solve the issue for me.

I'm pretty close to Heathrow, so likewise!

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In reply to a post by pluralist:

In reply to a post by clyde123:

If we ruled out the phone line as a reliable internet source, then it would make sense to put more effort and resources into mobile internet, maybe a good 4G router or something along those lines.

The 4G router would also be off in a power cut. However using a charged-up mobile phone as a hotspot works well until it goes flat. I used to run my laptop + iPad + the internet connection for my smart tv that way. Obviously not the tv in a power cut.

There are of course cheap pocket-sized devices for charging mobile phones widely available.

Have you not thought about keeping a few cans of petrol around and just sitting in the car with the engine running with a 12V to 230V transformer then your good to go till everyone gets this idea. Heat, electric, and better signal as the walls aren't as thick, only till the signal drops when the mast dies, then you just drive to the next one.

I believe you're thinking of an (DC-to-AC) inverter rather than transformer which is an AC only device.

What I would say is that if you're considering this, an inverter isn't really necessary at all. The majority of 4G/5G routers will be 12V DC input - so there's no need to waste money and energy going to AC just to rectify this straight back to DC using a plug-pack power supply - you can go direct, the voltage input tolerance of the router will be fine.

Think of it as the campervan or caravan approach. 😎

I'm 11 miles from Manchester so probably the same if that went. Or I might be unlucky and get the heavy radiation dose from the atomic detonator.

Reading the last 3/4 posts made me think I had slipped back into a 1970s school days discussion. ( Tuck your head between your legs and kiss your Bum goodbye)

The thread started off with generating shortfall power cuts not the end of the world

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

UKPN usually wheel the trailered sets about when there’s been a local connection fault into a premises. Usually a failure on the UG joint.

Location of the cabinets prior to the appearance of the diesel generator:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.8987017,-2.5013563...

A few Sundays later and the working generator is still there plus a fuel tank on another trailer. Both are located on the pavement in front of the cabinets behind a temporary fence. The middle cabinet is covered by a tarpaulin together with a smaller temporary fence surrounding it.

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Reading the last 3/4 posts made me think I had slipped back into a 1970s school days discussion. ( Tuck your head between your legs and kiss your Bum goodbye)

The thread started off with generating shortfall power cuts not the end of the world

In the 1964 film Doctor Strangelove Peter Sellers almost saved the world by using a public phone box. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUAK7t3Lf8s

Edited by 4M2 (Sun 23-Oct-22 19:20:43)