I will probably overlap active ADSL with FTTP provision for approx. one month just to be certain of a continued internet connection - i.e ADSL and FTTP on the same account.

In reply to a post by MHC:

The indication to me was I could start the process "now" for a migration in Jan/Feb time - contract renewal is next September and no mention of early termination.

Now I understand why the folks are sticking with PN...

In reply to a post by jpm:

Just on this point, a lot of these AltNets are not small family firms fighting against incumbents. Zzoomm for example are majority owned by Oaktree Capital, a US-based firm with $164bn in assets managed.

I know Zzoom is not a small family firm and I know that it is supported by Oakrtree, I do my research I also know the CEO is Matthew Hare and he also started up Gigaclear. I realise that a installing a fibre network will need a lot of money, and it needs investment., it is a shame that it is a U.S company, but then Out of reach and BT shares are mostly owned by people in other countries. The British in the BT name these days is laughable.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

…indeed or Emirati, Saudi or Qatari money….

Same as Bloated Toad and Out of reach.

In reply to a post by neo_wales:

It doesn't take long to fit FTTP on a standard house, very often only around an hour. You may as well go FTTP now and your set for future upgrades.

IIRC the smart meter took about 20 minutes to fit.

I know how long it takes for fFTTP to be fitted, I was at a house when one was fitted, not Out of reach, but Gigaclear. It takes a hour if things go right. As for smart meters, I also know how long they take and they take longer than 20 minutes. It took longer than that when they fitted a new gas meter.

In reply to a post by tdw42:

Openreach seem to have relaxed that somwehat, there are some 'FTTP Priority Exchange Dilution Rules' which state:

"Under the rules of the stop sell policy, end customers that already have an active GEA-FTTC or SOGEA service (any speed) will be allowed to change CP and keep their existing service as long as it is provided on either a GEA-FTTC 40/10 or SOGEA 40/10 service.

In support of this policy, end customers will also be able to modify the bandwidth from any speed to a GEA-FTTC 40/10 or SOGEA 40/10 service."

i wonder why they have relaxed on that, seems very strange since they want to get people onto FTTP. Chatting to someone using BT broadband and they live in the area of the city where Out of reach FTTp have been for a couple of months, and they are getting a lot of emails from BT about changing to FTTP, they even had a phone call. Now that would annoy me, emails not so much, but phoning me would.
They are not changing as they are waiting for their contract to end, and they are going with Zzoomm.

I have still not made up my mind what to do yet, to wait until the end of my contract and recontract. I will think more about it later on.

In reply to a post by 4M2:

Seems to me that anyone currently using a xDSL/PSTN line who has FTTP available at their address needs to seriously consider getting FTTP installed/activated quite soon. Advice that I'm getting from my ISP is that voice over copper needs to be converted to VoIP without too much delay. Waiting and doing it in a rush could cause issues if having an active "landline" and retention of phone number is important to an end user.

Makes no difference to me, I already use a VoIP system, there is no phone connected to my landline, in fact I can't even remember what the phone number is.

Good time to buy shares perhaps. Market rumours continue to swirl off a PE or infrastructure fund buyout.

Probably due to ofcoms charge controls on the 40/10 product to promote retail competition

Edited by deleted (Sun 04-Dec-22 12:32:08)

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by 4M2:

Seems to me that anyone currently using a xDSL/PSTN line who has FTTP available at their address needs to seriously consider getting FTTP installed/activated quite soon. Advice that I'm getting from my ISP is that voice over copper needs to be converted to VoIP without too much delay. Waiting and doing it in a rush could cause issues if having an active "landline" and retention of phone number is important to an end user.

Makes no difference to me, I already use a VoIP system, there is no phone connected to my landline, in fact I can't even remember what the phone number is.

I think you mentioned that FTTP was available at your address? If so you are perhaps dependent on active D-Side copper pairs for a continuing VDSL connection during the short to medium term regardless of the voice situation...