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zyborg47
(legend) Fri 11-Aug-23 17:41:02

Re: No xDSL & PSTN bundle migration orders from September.

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There are PAYG sim providers who don't have minimum use policies and only require you to maintain a positive balance. My wife uses an old unlocked mobile and has never had more than £3 balance over past couple of years. She only has to make one call or send one text in a 12 month period.

But do these PAYG providers just have a voice part? I must admit i have not looked around for a while as have had no need to, but the last time I looked, they all had a data and I could not see any that did not have the 30 day thing. If there is they make it flipping hard to find.
The problem with mobile phone networks is they think we all need ton of data and super duper speed.

Adrian

Desktop machines Mac mini pro with macOS Ventura, also pc Ryzen powered with windows something or other.
Zooming with Zzoomm FTTP,

jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 11-Aug-23 18:14:18

Re: No xDSL & PSTN bundle migration orders from September.

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As for being separate, you must be a fool if you think Openreach is separate from BT, BT still owns it and still pulls the ropes. Openreach should be separated from BT. Taking BT off their vans don;'t change anything.

We can disagree there, but unlike the 100 years of copper wire, Openreach now has full competition with the likes of CityFibre, Virgin Media, nexFibre, and the alternate networks (your local Zzoomm, my local Toob, and others).

The "monopoly" position will disappear. I suspect by 2060 things will be quite different. wink

_{23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM}

jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 11-Aug-23 18:15:20

Re: No xDSL & PSTN bundle migration orders from September.

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The problem with mobile phone networks is they think we all need ton of data and super duper speed.

How else do they compete? PAYG as we knew it ended as a LOT of PAYG usage is under 18s whom can't get credit and these days all want/need smartphones.

_{23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM}

4M2
(knowledge is power) Fri 11-Aug-23 19:16:37

Re: No xDSL & PSTN bundle migration orders from September.

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...do these PAYG providers just have a voice part? I must admit i have not looked around for a while as have had no need to, but the last time I looked, they all had a data and I could not see any that did not have the 30 day thing. If there is they make it flipping hard to find.
The problem with mobile phone networks is they think we all need ton of data and super duper speed.

I use Vodafone PAYG: one call, text or top-up of credit must be done within a 180 days of the last call, text or top-up. One's account credit for a call or text is reduced by £1. However only for the period of that day unlimited minutes and unlimited texts plus 50MB of data are available.

PAYG mobile is not perhaps an ideal solution after a PSTN switch off or cease but it might be relevant as a short term solution to any voice issues,

j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Aug-23 12:12:11

Re: No xDSL & PSTN bundle migration orders from September.

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Can SoTAP and SoGFast be ordered yet?
Wherever I look I keep being told it is not available.

Thanks
Dan

Openreach selling it but sadly many ISPs not bothered to use it. Lazy sod

As tdw42 posted, out of reach is only the network and infrastructure provider, and we are supposed to believe that they are separate from BT. Yeah, sure they are.

Yes, they are separate.

Openreach are selling SOGFast to providers and have been for some time.
BT do not offer SOGFast.
G.Fast from BT is currently only available with a PSTN line (or was last time I checked (very recently)).

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 14-Aug-23 12:16:22)

j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Aug-23 12:15:54

Re: No xDSL & PSTN bundle migration orders from September.

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Can SoTAP and SoGFast be ordered yet?
Wherever I look I keep being told it is not available.

Thanks
Dan

SOGFast is definitely available. Sky for example bundle it with their VOIP.

BT sell G.Fast but not SOGFast though I expect that might change with the looming stop sell.

I'm yet to see SOTAP being sold by anyone.

Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 23-Aug-23 23:21:24

Re: No xDSL & PSTN bundle migration orders from September.

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In reply to a post by 4M2:
I guess a bundled xDSL broadband and "landline" voice service could be migrated to another provider if the user agreed to having VoIP with them? Presumably any gaining provider would have to provide the necessary hardware (or suggest suitable hardware) for a "landline" voice service to continue.

The stop/sell starts on 5th September, but simply after this date, anyone on a copper (FTTC/Gfast) service and wanting to change provider of which there are only copper services available (i.e no FTTP), have to move to SoTAP/SoGEA/SoGFast, either keeping the voice via VoIP or ditching that entirely.

This does not apply to MPF lines however such as Talk Talk or Sky's which currently have no stop date.

Matt

Wonder how well VOIP works when ADSL/VDSL is saturated during call?

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