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Standard User Alucidnation
(committed) Sun 29-Sep-24 17:58:13
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For the avoidance of doubt, you guys are actually discussing cloudf*L*are here, right?


My bad.

Yes that's correct!
Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Sun 29-Sep-24 18:13:34
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I believe that that site is pretty useless as browsers don't necessarily use only the DNS server set up in the OS's network settings. This is further compounded on modern Apple devices when iCloud relay is active.

I get different results from an iPad and a Windows machine, though both are set up to point to my router for DNS resolution.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 29-Sep-24 18:55:02
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I believe that that site is pretty useless as browsers don't necessarily use only the DNS server set up in the OS's network settings. This is further compounded on modern Apple devices when iCloud relay is active.
ICloud private relay only exists if you pay for iCloud+ of course. I thought in the UK that browser based “secure DNS” was off by default, as the browsers were yelled at by UK Gov as they could potentially bypass the “David Cameron Filters” that ISPs have to provide by default.

I get different results from an iPad and a Windows machine, though both are set up to point to my router for DNS resolution.
If you have iCloud + that would be expected.

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 30-Sep-24 10:38:09
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Paste the output of ipconfig /all

Unless you have a Mac, or Linux machine.

You forgot to mention Amiga. 😢

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Standard User wiggsc00
(learned) Mon 30-Sep-24 15:57:17
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So, i normally use 1.1.1.1 etc for my DNS servers rather than the ISP supplied ones, and for some reason, if i change them, i still seem to be routed through the ISP servers as well as the CF ones.

If i leave them set to ISP supplied DNS servers, i only get theirs listed using the below test website.

https://www.top10vpn.com/tools/what-is-my-dns-server/

Surely i should only see the Cloudfare servers if i change them and not the ISP ones as well?

Or am i not understanding how they work?

smile


What Router do you have. When connecting to the WAN (ISP) you have a choice of accepting the Default DNS or using your own. This is the case with my Asus router. I can say no to the automatic DNS and set my own. Separately, I can set the DNS for any client in DHCP setup. Lastly, I have the option of either advertising the router DNS in addition to the DHCP DNS. Most routers will always advertise their own address for DNS, regardless of whether you have set the DNS in LAN/DHCP. IF you have accepted the automatic WAN DNS in WAN configuration, then as far as I'm aware, all Windows PC's will accept 3 DNS addresses when obtaining a lease, the ones you specify in DHCP AND the Router IP, which will then route to the ISP DNS servers. As for other devices, cannot tell you, hit and miss as to whether they accept the router DNS as well.

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Standard User pyarwood
(member) Tue 01-Oct-24 03:53:25
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Standard User pyarwood
(member) Tue 01-Oct-24 03:53:49
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Paste the output of ipconfig /all

Unless you have a Mac, or Linux machine.

You forgot to mention Amiga. 😢


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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 01-Oct-24 19:44:19
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This url I find is useful for looking at dns servers. You need to clock on a dns button to test them.

https://browserleaks.com/ip

If it does report your ISP servers, maybe your router has an option to still include the ISP's DNS in addition to your configured ones (some router software does this), if it does its probably in the WAN settings. 


					
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I don't think that test is at all accurate.



I use NextDNS and all other DNS traffic is blocked and re-directed to NextDNS on my router. 

Every other test shows this as working as designed, except this one.



Try this one https://www.dnsleaktest.com/




Just showed cloudflare for me which is what I have configured.  Also of course there is http over dns now which browsers might use.
					


					
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					It showed Cloudflare for me too which I do not have configured.

All other DNS checkers show correctly as mentioned so it is something specific to this one.
					

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