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Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Mon 04-Aug-25 14:13:00
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Re: BBC iplayer now linked to licence?


[re: behuk] [link to this post]
 
Never had to put a license number in, so hardly linked.

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Administrator seb
(founder) Mon 04-Aug-25 23:24:42
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Re: BBC iplayer now linked to licence?


[re: Malwaremike] [link to this post]
 
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Looks as if BBC has linked its Iplayer login to the TV licence. Our licence expired three days ago and we now get the 'network error' notice when we tried to log in -- not that we bother much with it, and given the Beeb's woke content and increasing repeats we're thinking of going to streaming anyway.


I'm skeptical they've linked it. It's more likely they will feed your use of iPlayer to TV licensing an you could end up with a warrant or court case with iplayer evidence. You're handing it to them on a platter.. Try watching S4C possibly (This is not legal advice so check first but see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_i... for why I said that)

If you use iplayer for bbc content.. you should pay.. like it or not.. smile

seb

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 05-Aug-25 07:48:00
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Re: BBC iplayer now linked to licence?


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There is no automated way of linking to license, it would have to be a manual process of where you enter the details.


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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 05-Aug-25 10:57:16
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Re: BBC iplayer now linked to licence?


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It's more likely they will feed your use of iPlayer to TV licensing an you could end up with a warrant or court case with iplayer evidence.

TV licensing would need some way of linking IP address to postal address to check licensing status. As far as I know that would require a court order, which couldn't be granted in this case since there's no way of knowing which IP addresses haven't paid for a licence.

Oliver.
Standard User DFScale
(experienced) Tue 05-Aug-25 11:48:16
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TV licensing would need some way of linking IP address to postal address to check licensing status. As far as I know that would require a court order, which couldn't be granted in this case since there's no way of knowing which IP addresses haven't paid for a licence.

And CGNAT would throw a huge spanner in the works anyway
Administrator seb
(founder) Tue 05-Aug-25 19:58:45
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Re: BBC iplayer now linked to licence?


[re: Oliver341] [link to this post]
 
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In reply to a post by seb:
It's more likely they will feed your use of iPlayer to TV licensing an you could end up with a warrant or court case with iplayer evidence.

TV licensing would need some way of linking IP address to postal address to check licensing status. As far as I know that would require a court order, which couldn't be granted in this case since there's no way of knowing which IP addresses haven't paid for a licence.


No. Your BBC iPlayer account asks for your postcode - https://account.bbc.com/account/settings - I *think* that was compulsory as I wouldn't have entered it otherwise..

Also they could find your e-mail address linked to your identity in other databases.. remember those 'e-mail age verification' things where they can tell you've over 18 from e-mail? it's probably because they cross reference your data in other systems.

I saw some suggestion online that they were feeding this data to TV Licensing - I actually asked directly from the data company they used as I recall and they claimed not to have any data on me..

(I can use iPlayer legally as I am in a household with a license which may have changed things)

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 05-Aug-25 20:47:41
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Re: BBC iplayer now linked to licence?


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No. Your BBC iPlayer account asks for your postcode

Postcodes can cover from 1 to 150+ individual dwellings.

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 05-Aug-25 22:23:18
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Re: BBC iplayer now linked to licence?


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No. Your BBC iPlayer account asks for your postcode - https://account.bbc.com/account/settings - I *think* that was compulsory as I wouldn't have entered it otherwise..

Also they could find your e-mail address linked to your identity in other databases.. remember those 'e-mail age verification' things where they can tell you've over 18 from e-mail? it's probably because they cross reference your data in other systems.

I just created a new BBC account with an email address from https://temp-mail.org/ and a random postcode from https://www.doogal.co.uk/. I'm not asked to prove the postcode is mine, and the email address isn't associated with anything.

Oliver.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Wed 06-Aug-25 09:21:02
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Re: BBC iplayer now linked to licence?


[re: seb] [link to this post]
 
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No. Your BBC iPlayer account asks for your postcode - https://account.bbc.com/account/settings - I *think* that was compulsory as I wouldn't have entered it otherwise..

Also they could find your e-mail address linked to your identity in other databases.. remember those 'e-mail age verification' things where they can tell you've over 18 from e-mail? it's probably because they cross reference your data in other systems.

I saw some suggestion online that they were feeding this data to TV Licensing - I actually asked directly from the data company they used as I recall and they claimed not to have any data on me..

(I can use iPlayer legally as I am in a household with a license which may have changed things)


I have a BBC account for BBC Sounds, not that I use it that often these days, but I use a postcode that is not mine and the email is a Yahoo one.
The people who have had emails saying they are using Iplayer when they say they don't have a license are those that uses the same email to register a BBC account as they used to tell the TVL they don't need a license.

I just don't tell TVL anything, I just let them carry on sending me letters, not that I use Iplayer, but I know someone who does and don't have a TV licence.

The other way is to use a different email address to tell TVL you don't need a licence to the one you register for a BBC account.

But Iplayer is certainly not linked to your licence.

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Wed 06-Aug-25 09:23:25
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[re: Oliver341] [link to this post]
 
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I just created a new BBC account with an email address from https://temp-mail.org/ and a random postcode from https://www.doogal.co.uk/. I'm not asked to prove the postcode is mine, and the email address isn't associated with anything.


No, you are asked to prove it is yours, I have used a postcode that is different to mine for years, not that I use the account much these days, got it for BBC sounds.
I do get fed up with the BBC asking us to sign in when we look at their news site.
Why would I want to do that?

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