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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Thu 17-Nov-11 11:54:21
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cheers, I can't play the 1080p from you tube unless i buffer.


I had to buffer too. Not by much though, but it's another reminder that the minimum speeds required for an enjoyable online experience are moving and will continue to do so. Should we jump the gun and call for a 100% 20Meg coverage by 2013? wink

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Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 17-Nov-11 12:42:14
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Re: New PC for Video Editing


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Adrian,

Yes, you are certainly getting very good quality footage from the JVC - is that the one you got from QVC several months ago?

I find that Vegas doesn't deinterlace particularly well even when using "interpolation" rather than "blend". For best results I use an AviSynth script with VirtualDub: the QTGMC deinterlacer plug-in for AviSynth really is exceptionally good, i.e. this script for 1080 50i AVCHD stuff etc.:

DirectShowSource("My_Video.mts")
AssumeTFF()
QTGMC( Preset="Slow" )

Camera shake can also be removed very effectively with the VirtualDub Deshaker plug-in - one can stabilise with Vegas 10 pro and platinum also but, like with deinterlacing, the free apps (AviSynth and VirtualDub) and plug-ins are better.

Best of luck choosing a good microphone - if you can get a "deadcat" to eliminate wind noise that would be very handy for outdoor work...
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 20-Nov-11 08:36:24
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Re: New PC for Video Editing


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Adrian,

Yes, you are certainly getting very good quality footage from the JVC - is that the one you got from QVC several months ago?


Only the shots in the studio are mine. the ones outside with Shari, and at the airport was done by my mate on his JVC Sd camcorder, but that is pretty good as well to be honest.


Yes, the Camcorder was the one I got from QVC, I am amazed at the quality for the price of it, My mates studio is not that brightly lit as you can see, only a few lamps stuck around and it is only a small studio in the cellar.

I done a video of our Cathedral a few days back just for a bit of fun, used the zoom with anti-sake and was amazed at how good it was even at full zoom.

Not going to use anti-shake that much as it does have a couple of issues, but still impressive and the detail it got from parts of the building I would never see close up.


I was chatting to another mate last night, well more of a acquaintance than a mate, I built is his computer that he uses for video editing, he does it as a business and makes his money from it. Anyway, he been so impressed by my little camcorder that his next camcorder will be a JVC, but the pro end of the market, have have had enough of Sony.



I find that Vegas doesn't deinterlace particularly well even when using "interpolation" rather than "blend". For best results I use an AviSynth script with VirtualDub: the QTGMC deinterlacer plug-in for AviSynth really is exceptionally good, i.e. this script for 1080 50i AVCHD stuff etc.:

DirectShowSource("My_Video.mts")
AssumeTFF()
QTGMC( Preset="Slow" )



I found that Vegas is a bit iffy on deinterlace, but you confused me with the above, I downloaded the stuff, installed AVIsynth and that is as far as I have got so far, I got a few things to do this morning, but will have a look tonight.

Saying that I can't seem to find the part that had the problem now.

Camera shake can also be removed very effectively with the VirtualDub Deshaker plug-in - one can stabilise with Vegas 10 pro and platinum also but, like with deinterlacing, the free apps (AviSynth and VirtualDub) and plug-ins are better.



Got some newblue plugins that helps with camera shake, but the video was made to be a documentary rough type thing anyway, so a bit of camera shake is not ia problem. which is why he did not cut me out completely when I was trying to get down to sound level in t he studio.,
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Best of luck choosing a good microphone - if you can get a "deadcat" to eliminate wind noise that would be very handy for outdoor work...
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i am looking at the Zoom H1 or Zoom H2, H1 is cheaper and I have heard the quality form it, pretty good, not sure what the stereo separation is like, the H2 certainly got stereo separation, how they do it considering how close the mics are I don't know.

We seem to be taking over this thread in the wrong forum.

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 7 pro 64bit , laptop by ubuntu

On ADSL24 using C&W network.


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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 20-Nov-11 10:41:08
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To be honest I also wouldn't touch Dell as their built quality have dropped off a cliff recently and a friend of mine says that the large company he works for is so annoyed at Dell due to this and poor business support they are dropping them when the contract is up next year.

If you want a pre built PC look around for a local independant PC shop, my computer was built by one near me with my specifications and parts and they put it all together for me.

They even put a 1 year warrenty onto it as well.

As for videos 8 gig minimum is required and you may have to bite the bullet and go for a big drive which is essential if you are doing any form of video capturing.

Top end Processors and video cards are not so essential, I have a Core2 quad core at 2.83 GHz and a mid range graphics card and can still render in HD, it just takes a bit longer to process.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 20-Nov-11 12:42:54
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To be honest I also wouldn't touch Dell as their built quality have dropped off a cliff recently and a friend of mine says that the large company he works for is so annoyed at Dell due to this and poor business support they are dropping them when the contract is up next year.


I have never been that impressed with Dell products, always thought they was over priced for what they offered.
If you want a pre built PC look around for a local independant PC shop, my computer was built by one near me with my specifications and parts and they put it all together for me.

They even put a 1 year warrenty onto it as well.


Good idea if there is a decent independent PC store around where the OP lives. None around here, they all seem to want to rip people off and muck up computers they have in for repairs.

If the Op wants to go for prebuilt, then try something like Acer or go from something from Scan.


As for videos 8 gig minimum is required and you may have to bite the bullet and go for a big drive which is essential if you are doing any form of video capturing.


8Gig?

If the price is right then fine, but my mates get by on a lot less than that, true more is better, but 4Gig will do the job.,

Top end Processors and video cards are not so essential, I have a Core2 quad core at 2.83 GHz and a mid range graphics card and can still render in HD, it just takes a bit longer to process.



Graphics cards don't render, most of it is done by the CPU, true, that some software do use certain hardware acceleration on graphic cards.

Hard drive as already been said the larger the better, certainly when dealing with HD footage.

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 7 pro 64bit , laptop by ubuntu

On ADSL24 using C&W network.
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Sun 20-Nov-11 15:24:37
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Re: New PC for Video Editing


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Adrian,

Rather than take over this thread with our discussion and if you are interested in working with AviSynth for deinterlacing AVCHD etc. then you will need the VirtualDub app plus the FFMS2 (if you don't have the CoreAVC codec) and QTGMC-3.32 AviSynth plug-ins. Then the Matrox or CineForm codecs as "editor friendly" AVI export formats for Vegas.

Plenty of discussions about this on the net - particularly in the Doom9 forums etc. - http://code.google.com/p/ffmpegsource/ & http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156028 & http://www.matrox.com/video/en/support/windows/vfw_s... smile

Edited by 4M2 (Sun 20-Nov-11 16:24:19)

Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 21-Nov-11 19:56:26
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Re: New PC for Video Editing


[re: 4M2] [link to this post]
 
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Adrian,

Rather than take over this thread with our discussion and if you are interested in working with AviSynth for deinterlacing AVCHD etc. then you will need the VirtualDub app plus the FFMS2 (if you don't have the CoreAVC codec) and QTGMC-3.32 AviSynth plug-ins. Then the Matrox or CineForm codecs as "editor friendly" AVI export formats for Vegas.

Plenty of discussions about this on the net - particularly in the Doom9 forums etc. - http://code.google.com/p/ffmpegsource/ & http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156028 & http://www.matrox.com/video/en/support/windows/vfw_s... smile


Thanks I will have a look later or tomorrow. Having a play around with the trial version of Vegas 11, looks good, but out of my price range

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 7 pro 64bit , laptop by ubuntu

On ADSL24 using C&W network.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 22-Nov-11 11:03:39
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Re: New PC for Video Editing


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Hi guys,

Have been away for a while hence the silence. I was going to have a look at the dell suggestions but most the comments here seem to suggest those pcs are not good enough. I am now thinking of contacting a local pc shop to compare.
Will you guys be able to come up with a list of components for the system if I should go down that route.

Thanks
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Tue 22-Nov-11 13:19:51
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Anon,

Try a local computer shop by all means, but I feel a basic Dell low spec, quad core Win7 64bit desktop in to which you can add a graphics card, more RAM and a second HDD might still be your best bet...
Standard User sjr
(knowledge is power) Tue 22-Nov-11 15:26:12
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Have a look at www.pcspecialist.co.uk, you specify and they build. Spec below would be a very decent PC for video editing, £893 delivered including VAT. Highlights include 8GB RAM, quality Corsair PSU for quietness, upgraded CPU cooler and 24" IIYAMA monitor and all with a 3yr warranty.

Case
FRACTAL DESIGN R3 - BLACK PEARL CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core�i5-2500k Quad Core (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache) + HD Graphics

Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z68-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX

Memory (RAM)
8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)

Graphics Card
1GB AMD RADEON� HD6450 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - DX® 11

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
1TB SATA-II 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 32MB CACHE (7,200rpm)

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT

Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES� TX650 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£72)

Processor Cooling
SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE INTEL CPU COOLER (£19)

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Facilities
ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)

Monitor
IIYAMA E2473HDS 24" LED WIDESCREEN, 2 HDMI/DVI-D 1920x1080 (£159)

Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
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