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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Wed 25-Sep-24 16:45:23
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Help. NVMe drive again


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As I have said in another post, I got myself a gen 4 NVMe drive of 2TB for my old computer, the computer would not post. So I tried the Gen 3 4TB NVMe I have in my Mac dock in my computer and it would still not post.

So my view is that the machine can't take anything more than a 1TB NVMe drive or less.
The original drive is a 256GB.

The new NVMe drive works in my Mac dock, so there is nothing wrong with that.

I won't send it back, I will keep it for when I update my PC, but just wondered if anyone agrees with me that my old PC don't like any NVMe about 1TB.

I have done a search for the ASRock AMD AM4 Ryzen AB350 Gaming K4 and for the chipset, which is a B350 for NVMe capacity, but no luck. Just wondered if anyone on here knows why? Cheers

So I will have to keep using the SSD for the games and the 250GB drive for the OS and some software.

Adrian

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 25-Sep-24 17:43:33
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Don't know if it is related but this came up with an answer that might have relevance here

Also - have you updated the BIOS to the most recent version? Suggested here

Edited by ian72 (Wed 25-Sep-24 17:44:46)

Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Wed 25-Sep-24 20:00:06
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Have a look at this thread, particularly the last but one post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/pjukcx/pc...

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 26-Sep-24 09:04:13
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Thanks peeps, I did see both of those posts, articles. My computer don't even post with the larger capacity drives in, the only thing I changed was the the drive.

I tried to update the bios, the only ones left to go for are beta ones, and for some reason it came up with an error about incompatibility, which is strange since i got it from Asrock site for this board. It says don't use it for an older CPU than mine, but mine should be ok.

It is a 7-year-old board, so it would not surprise me if it did not take a large NVMe, as there were no such things then. It is time to update it, but I don't really want to pay a small fortune, it is only used for a few games. The machine cost me £550 and more in the long run due to updates of ram, drives, video card and also a new PSU. Not sure if I want to go price. The video card is fine for what I use it for, in fact it will work better on a newer machine. I presume the memory will need to change, it is DDR4 2666.

Just wondering if I should go for something with DDR5 memory or stay with DDR4, I don't really need something superfast, after all I have been using the Ryzen 7 for 7 years smile
If I could play the games on my Mac, I would not bother.

Once again thanks peeps

Adrian

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 27-Sep-24 14:32:24
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what version is the bios ?
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 27-Sep-24 15:42:32
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Have you tried clearing the CMOS. Dont forget on UEFI setups the BIOS is on disk.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 27-Sep-24 20:04:51
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In reply to a post by Banger:
Dont forget on UEFI setups the BIOS is on disk.

Not quite... the UEFI is the firmware running and it provides the "setup program" to configure things. This works even if you have no storage devices fitted. What you call "BIOS" is backwards compatibility programmer APIs, such as the CSM that you can enable to boot such legacy systems as Win7 32bit or WinXP. Anything Win10 or equivalent Linux releases should know how to boot on UEFI.

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 27-Sep-24 20:51:43
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In reply to a post by Banger:
Have you tried clearing the CMOS. Dont forget on UEFI setups the BIOS is on disk.


Tried that and no the UEFI is not on disk it is in the same place as the bios have been for years.


I have given up, I think there are other problems with the machine, in fact I know there are other problems with the machine. Even with the drive out, I had problems with the machine booting up.

Got it working again now as it was before, I did look at getting some new bits, but will try to keep it going until next year if I can.

My thing now is to get a amp working with it, I have been given a 5.1 Sony amp, my brother gave me some speakers a while ago, so I am going to link them together. The amp is pretty old, so have 5.1 surround DVD inputs, so i will put the computer outputs into them and the mac can go into the CD input.
Just need to find a space for the speakers as they are not small smile

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 27-Sep-24 20:52:45
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
Not quite... the UEFI is the firmware running and it provides the "setup program" to configure things. This works even if you have no storage devices fitted. What you call "BIOS" is backwards compatibility programmer APIs, such as the CSM that you can enable to boot such legacy systems as Win7 32bit or WinXP. Anything Win10 or equivalent Linux releases should know how to boot on UEFI.



Yep, that is correct,

Adrian

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Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Fri 27-Sep-24 20:57:54
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If the UEFI was on the disk, how would the computer read the disk in the first place?

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