As I expected. Otherwise there was no reason to italicise it.

> It's a nice sunny day here today, what's the weather like on your planet?

Blue here, with fluffy white clouds under which several back-haul providers offer wholesale service in the UK, including BE, Opal, C&W and Sky-Easynet.

Do you deny that IDNet could use any combination of these instead of BT Wholesale?

even more true then, why would a normal average joe user think to do a 'ping' test, but they don't even know what latency means.

I don't speak for IDNet, but my personal opinion is that of course they can. The problem, though, is that only BT offers a universal service, so it would mean continuing a contract with BT as well as any new carrier. I suspect this would have cost implications.

My pen has dried up, can I borrow yours

In reply to a post by rikbean:

I don't speak for IDNet, but my personal opinion is that of course they can. The problem, though, is that only BT offers a universal service, so it would mean continuing a contract with BT as well as any new carrier. I suspect this would have cost implications.

Quite .

As for the wholesalers list, as an example the wholesale price of Be is higher than their own retail price.

Also, bearing in mind the starting point of this little bit to silliness "The end user has a contract with the ISP, not with BT Wholesale or BT Openreach.It is the responsibility of the ISP to choose the right backhaul provider and to make sure things work", my view is it if the customer's responsibility to choose what seems to them to be the most suitable ISP for their purpose.

The vast majority buy one of the best-marketed products or follow the recommendations of sponsored comparison sites.

In reply to a post by rikbean:

The problem, though, is that only BT offers a universal service, so it would mean continuing a contract with BT as well as any new carrier. I suspect this would have cost implications.

I agree and presumably that is why, sadly, iDNet don't offer it. The only alternative that approaches the universality of BT is TalkTalk but I don't believe that all the TT enabled exchanges will necessarily allow an Opal/TT based wholesale service.

Nonetheless, Xilo seem to be able to make it pay. So far

In reply to a post by Tacitus:

The only alternative that approaches the universality of BT is TalkTalk but I don't believe that all the TT enabled exchanges will necessarily allow an Opal/TT based wholesale service.

Nonetheless, Xilo seem to be able to make it pay. So far

And vivaciti.

Though I haven't seen any hint from either of them of their wholesale contracts with TT Business Wholesale excluding any previously or recently enabled exchanges. What makes you think they do?

It is shocking because it is not fair comment, it is trolling Jeurgan.

IDNET were very clear that their recent problems were all down to BT Wholesale and that they were looking for alternative suppliers. At the time I just put this down to a minuscule provider's unprofessionalism.

However IDNET do not seem to have come up with alternative suppliers.

The referral operators that market here on ThinkBroadband appear to have no problems marketing alternative wholesalers.

So a less charitable punter may question why IDNET are not able to emulate these referral operators and offer more reliable services via altcos such as C@W or CPW..

Particularly when IDNET are one of the most expensive providers in the market.

ThinkBroadband moderator, Billford's trolling shows unequivalent behaviour against jeurgan's salient point and discredits the board's impartial adsl guide status in my view.

In this instance Jeurgan is correct. IDNET are perfectly able to choose altco wholesalers and punters of IDNET have a contract only with them not their wholesaler. pooh pooing this fact by a 'mod' simply discredits the impartiality of the BBS.

Edited by deleted (Mon 28-Mar-11 23:36:52)

Your neutrality, passion for the truth and concern for the reputation of this bbs give me a warm feeling.

Oh, hang on, that's from laughing so much, I'll be back shortly...