A nice we hands on demo here, mostly showing the speed increase of the new phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynBpKpjq5Oo

I've already gone Samsung for my main phone... the fantastic S3... Yup it's not perfect but I love the ability to break free from Apples walled garden...... The i4S is no match for the S3.

I am an Apple dude through and through... with two mac minis, an imac, a mac pro and a mac book pro... but I can't get with i5...

I'd give this a go.... http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2204517/ee-...

In reply to a post by NaNook:

Yeah, innovation is on the slow down since old Steve died.

I will be getting one though. I migrated from the 4S (lovely phone) to the Samsung Galaxy Note and have been disappointed with both the build quality, performance, and OS.

I'll be getting one. Apple products aren't always the most advanced or cutting edge (let's not forget that the first iPhone didn't do 3G) but there tends to be a very good mix of simplicity, features, and style that other manufacturers struggle to match.

Also, being an iPad and MacBook owner, iCloud links everything together rather neatly and provides an incentive to keep everything Apple.

In terms of "Apple innovation" - what are we expecting? The only product I'd criticise is AppleTV, which seems to be developing slowly, if at all, but everything else (phones, laptops, desktops, tablets) seems to be developing nicely and making use of the latest technology.

Edited by xela (Thu 13-Sep-12 20:09:42)

Readers might find this little bit of willy-waving informative:

http://www.techhive.com/article/2000509/iphone-5-vs-...

But apparently Apple aren't innovating...

I smell the blood of a troll (not you xela).

A6 chip (faster graphics, cpu)
4" display
Thinner
Lighter
Lightening (accessories, reversible)
Wideband audio (20 carriers but no details yet?)
Enhanced audio (3 mics, noise cancelling, better speakers)
Improved camera (faster photo capture, better low-light performance and improved noise reduction)
Improved battery life
WiFi 802.11n
LTE (EE)
DC-HSDPA (EE, O2)

Did I miss anything? Seems like a solid update to me so I'm up for it.

You forgot to knock it and suggest an "alternative", this being a thread in the Apple forum with a subject of iPhone 5...
Now, where do I order?

Apple store currently being updated (since around 5am) so im thinking soon

Go for it......

The prices on contract are lower than I'd expected but I've gone for SIM free anyway - it still works out a bit cheaper in the long run and I have more flexibility.