What are Apple going to do when they run out of big cats?

Good question

They got them in the wrong order anyway- the tiger is a much more powerful cat than the lion!

Bill, yes, I'm using Lion.

Thanks Carl.

So we appear to have one machine running Lion that works, another running Lion that doesn't and another running Snow Leopard that depends which browser is used... I'm beginning to think I should realise when I'm beaten

Exactly the same happening to me - Snow Leopard with Firefox and Safari. 12Mbps down (and 8-ish up) if the mouse is stationary, and 24 Mbps down if I scroll fast. In fact if you stop scrolling you can see the speed drop, and then pick up if you start scrolling again. My true down speed is about 37 Mbps. The upload is more or less correct.

I think it is a sort of game - see how fast you can scroll and get your speed to register!

OK, just tested it on a Lion machine with Firefox, and the same thing happens. However the speeds are higher on the Lion Mac - 15 - 25 Mbps stationary, and 33 ish with scrolling. Up speeds seem correct.

Pile of rubbish that speed tester, I reckon!

In reply to a post by Nutmeg:

I think it is a sort of game - see how fast you can scroll and get your speed to register!

I might mention that to Seb


But then again, perhaps I'd better not

Lion here too (10.7.3). Flash version 11,2,202,235 (bang up to date) and tried the same thing out on both Safari (Version 5.1.5 (7534.55.3) and Firefox (Version 12) with the same results:

Scrolling up/down fast improves the download speed and doesn't impact on the upload speed test results at all.

From (a hazy) memory, I never used the Flash test as it seemed totally erroneous anyhow (and this using my old Vista 32bit laptop).

My speeds for reference are normally 15778 Kbps down and 1111 Kbps up and are consistent using the Java based speed test.

The flash based test gave me 12 mbps down if mouse was idle and 16.2 mbps down if I went mad with the up/down scrolling. Interestingly, I couldn't improve on what is probably my actual connection throughput stats as I'm using ADSL2+ (Annex A) on a 24meg/1meg product from Be.

There was an online flash based game I once played, where I can just about recall, you could manipulate results in the same kind of way so I don't think it's a unique phenomenon to TBB. My own (uneducated) theory is it's got something to do with the graphics card. It'd be interesting to see if this issue is just Apple based or not (I suspect it isn't) and whether it's affected by the type and power of graphics card installed. Over to you Mr Bill!

In reply to a post by SPOOKish:

whether it's affected by the type and power of graphics card installed.

Well, the iMac has an ATI Radeon and the MacBook has an NVidia GeForce, but I suppose anything's possible

Over to you Mr Bill!

And passed rapidly on to John and Seb (They're aware of this thread).

Though it somewhat contradicts what I said earlier, I was wondering if the issue had anything to do with hardware graphics acceleration (open CL?). My macbook has an ATI card and the integrate Intel 3000 whatsits.

ATI Technologies Inc. -- ATI Radeon HD 6770M OpenGL Engine -- 2.1 ATI-7.18.11

Anyway, like you say. It's over to other people to sort! Hope they have fun finding out what's going on.