MacOS Ventura

Anyone going all Ventura tomorrow?

No way. Always wait for the x.1 version.

But I’ll probably try an install on another disk.

In reply to a post by TinyMongomery:

No way. Always wait for the x.1 version.

But I’ll probably try an install on another disk.

Er, how can you try and instal on another disk, or can you install on an external drive?

Every MacOS so far can be installed to an external drive (that I know of anyway), but I'm with the wait, until at least a few days, and the other question is 'why' (for now, until it's proven to be stable for others).

1. You have 2 disks in your Mac, or

2. You use a USB-C external disk.

Another possibility, although not strictly “another disk”, is to create a new partition for the install.

Edited by TinyMongomery (Mon 24-Oct-22 07:15:24)

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Another possibility, although not strictly “another disk”, is to create a new partition for the install.

Which on APFS (Apple File System) you can do totally on the fly without impacting anything else on the drive. You can create new “partitions” on an existing drive that share space with your existing “partitions”.

Which means you can:

- create a new partition
- install a new OS on it
- boot to the new OS to try it out
- boot to the old OS
- remove the new partition with the new OS
- upgrade your original partition to the new OS

One of the useful things the Mac can do that Windows can’t*. No doubt there are Linux setups that can do this too, but most Linux distros don’t come out of the box with this sort of flexibility ready to go.

* or maybe it can, with the right third party tools, it certainly isn’t something that people generally do with it

Windows Storage Spaces provides this ability. No third-party tools needed. Similarly, FreeBSD and Linux can do the same.

In reply to a post by SteveBushell999:

Every MacOS so far can be installed to an external drive (that I know of anyway), but I'm with the wait, until at least a few days, and the other question is 'why' (for now, until it's proven to be stable for others).

i have seen some videos of people installing a OS to an external drive, but I thought maybe they have done some tinkering around.
I did not ask why, I am in agreement with you to wait, while mac OS have fewer problems than Windows, new updates can still have problems.
I presume this update is only for their own silicon?
I said to a friend that she needs to put the old Trash can pro to bed and get something a bit more modern, while she has not updated it to the top version of Mac Os it goes to, it is getting long in the tooth.

In reply to a post by TinyMongomery:

1. You have 2 disks in your Mac, or

2. You use a USB-C external disk.

Another possibility, although not strictly “another disk”, is to create a new partition for the install.

Most Macs it is not possible;e to install a second drive, if any these days.

In reply to a post by andynormancx:

In reply to a post by TinyMongomery:

Another possibility, although not strictly “another disk”, is to create a new partition for the install.

Which on APFS (Apple File System) you can do totally on the fly without impacting anything else on the drive. You can create new “partitions” on an existing drive that share space with your existing “partitions”.

Which means you can:

- create a new partition
- install a new OS on it
- boot to the new OS to try it out
- boot to the old OS
- remove the new partition with the new OS
- upgrade your original partition to the new OS

One of the useful things the Mac can do that Windows can’t*. No doubt there are Linux setups that can do this too, but most Linux distros don’t come out of the box with this sort of flexibility ready to go.

* or maybe it can, with the right third party tools, it certainly isn’t something that people generally do with it

This is where APFS is far better than NTFS,