That's the principle of my legal defence your Justice.

Secondly MS have allowed a purchased licence key to be applied without let or hindrance to said W11 for ARM instance your Justice.

May I humbly direct your Honourable Justice to the legal teams at Bellevue, Cupertino and Redmond for comment

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

How are you getting on with Stage Manager? I saw a video of someone using it, seems a bit of a fraff, I suppose it is something you get used to.

Had it switched on for a day or so. Now switched it off again. Might be better on a laptop screen, but I'm mostly using an external 40" monitor when I'm at my desk, so I find arranging / resizing my windows manually works fine. If I want a clean screen or flip between VMs or RDP sessions then I just hotkey between spaces.

In reply to a post by TinyMongomery:

Of course they are different. The API is the important thing; the implementation doesn't matter. Programmers don't need to know how APIs are implemented.

If anyone is interested in the workings of Mac OS, I can recommend Mac OS X Internals by Amit Singh. It’s not a light read, but goes into great detail. In similar veinn, The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System will provide many hours of fun(?) reading.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I have a R7 1700, so certainly not the fastest by any means these days, I was not the fastest when I first got.

Even the base M1 is over twice the speed in single core And the M1 Pro will be over twice the speed in multi core.

Any Intel stuff you end up running is likely to run faster on any Apple Silicon machine than it does on your current desktop (unless you have a recent beefy GPU).

To bring the thread back on topic... I ventured and on an M2 Mac Air, at least... no problems...

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In reply to a post by andynormancx:

Any Intel stuff you end up running is likely to run faster on any Apple Silicon machine than it does on your current desktop (unless you have a recent beefy GPU).

My 12th Gen i7 desktop is slightly under the M1 benchmark, and the M2 races ahead. My iPad is faster than my desktop PC

In reply to a post by nonymouse:

To bring the thread back on topic... I ventured and on an M2 Mac Air, at least... no problems...

Yes. So far it’s been pretty stable and shown good compatibility for an x.0 release for me. Running on Apple Silicon now so can’t say for Intel-based hardware.

OpenCore sounds like it’s getting closer to Ventura support for officially Apple-unsupported hardware too.

Ventura is stable (for me) so far with Intel, and I agree that OpenCore definitely 'getting there' - indeed, with release of 0.5.1 a couple of days ago, I have Ventura running on a 2012 MacBook Air 2012 (i7 Ivy Bridge) - So far, so good, will try on my 2014 Haswell Air later. Currently supported models here ... As regards the mess with Stage Manager.... I will stick with the old ways for now!

Update, 0.5.1 and Ventura, it all works on my 2014 Air just fine (so far).....

Edited by SteveBushell999 (Sun 30-Oct-22 12:55:03)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Anyone going all Ventura tomorrow?

Well its been the most uneventful 2 weeks with Ventura.

I guess that makes it a pretty decent first stab for Apple in 13.x land 🙈😂

Edited by Pheasant (Fri 04-Nov-22 19:31:54)