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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 15-Nov-24 08:24:44
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Re: Mac mini M4


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This was my argument that Apple back in 2016 should have slowly managed the transition from A to C instead of just dropping all A ports on the MacBooks. However its now 8 years later.

There are simple adaptors for small items, but there are a lot of multi-port adaptors. Almost every MacBook user at work has an Anker multi-port adaptor whereas our Windows colleagues have laptops with one A and one C at least. (Although many makes are moving away from this now).

example:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Charger-Connector-M...


As you said, should have happened a while back, the longer they pushed USB A the more equipment that come with it.
Those adaptors you linked to have to go the other way around, like

https://amzn.eu/d/ftjj7Z0

I never realised they were that small. That is ok as long as there is room for them on the machine.

If i get more USB thumb drives then I will certainly get them as USB-C

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 15-Nov-24 08:26:11
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Temps on Apple silicon are quite different to intel, so I'm not sure there is enough public info yet. We know Apple silicon can and DOES throttle (slow down) when it gets too hot, so I don't think there is anything to worry about.

Not really the AMD Athlon that used to blow apart if the heat sink fell off.



100C while doing some test is a fair bit, certainly in that small space. Sure, it is not going to get to 100C all the time, but

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 15-Nov-24 08:35:11
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Those USB-A wireless keyboard and mouse dongles probably keep Logitech and the accessories division of Microsoft afloat - if the rate at which my wife loses and breaks hers is any indication. They could just use Bluetooth 5LE, and cut out a whole lot of needles e-waste but proprietary keeps the cash-cows I suppose.


Not all computers have Bluetooth, my PC don't and when I first set up the Mac mini and tried Bluetooth, it did not work as I needed a keyboard to set Bluetooth up. I also noticed that when I did get Bluetooth working, my keyboard had a delay,

The dongle came with the mouse, there is also security, which may be more useful in an office, I doubt anyone is going to try and hack into my Bluetooth to see what I am typing smile
My dongles are kept in the machines, apart from when I was mucking around with my Dell thin client thing. Then I took the one out of the PC.

As for thumb drives, it's probably a form factor thing and they are as disposable now (and frankly as useful) as paperclips. Dual or double ended versions - with USB-C and USB-A at either end, work just fine.


Try telling that to someone who comes over to get something and has a USB A thumb drive. These days, if they have fast enough broadband, I give them a shared folder on my NAS and tell them to grab it from there.

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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Nov-24 08:54:03
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It’s not really a big deal. I’ve got an embarrassingly large collection of USB thumb drives from over the years. I think there’s at least 100 in there. I just a use an adapter. They are pennies. Ditto for wired keyboards.
Standard User andynormancx
(experienced) Fri 15-Nov-24 11:31:31
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Sadly latency is still an issue on Bluetooth. Which is the reason I still use the Logitech dongles.
Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Fri 15-Nov-24 11:44:33
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Never had any latency issues with Bluetooth keyboards on Macs (Mac keyboards/mice and Logitech ones).

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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Nov-24 11:51:31
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Me neither with BT on Mac's and I've had various mix and match generations over the years.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 15-Nov-24 12:09:37
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It’s not really a big deal. I’ve got an embarrassingly large collection of USB thumb drives from over the years. I think there’s at least 100 in there. I just a use an adapter. They are pennies. Ditto for wired keyboards.


I never realised the adapters were so small, I was expecting a cable with a plug and socket at each end.
My keyboard is not wired, well it is at the moment as It is on charge smile I have been killing some Zombies and then when I went back to the Mac it died smile. so getting charged up from the mac hub.,

I really have to sort out my thumb drives, some of them are ancient, a lot of USB 2 ones, which is fine for documents.

Not that any of this makes any difference to me, as I can't see myself going for another Mac to be honest, unless I go for a laptop. But I don;t really like laptops. I may treat myself.

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 15-Nov-24 12:11:06
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Sadly latency is still an issue on Bluetooth. Which is the reason I still use the Logitech dongles.


I had that problem for some reason but then the Mac mini or at least the M1 had a few problems with Bluetooth if I remember correctly

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Standard User billford
(elder) Fri 15-Nov-24 12:28:18
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Sadly latency is still an issue on Bluetooth.
No problems with latency here either, but the bluetooth daemon has a memory leak which might cause a problem after an extended period (quitting the process and letting it restart will sort it).
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