Router for Huawei E367

Has anyone come across a router with the firmware to run the new premium dongle from three. I currently run my old dongle on the Edimax 3G 6200n but cannot see this being updated as yet.
I understand the dovado 4GR indicates that it will support this model but i have no knowledge of this manufacturer any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I am using an Option Globesurfer X1 router with the premium Huawei E367, works just fine; getting average of 6MBps down, early morning it can go over 8MBps, so it proved a big improvement over the previous modem, an icon505. The router is upstairs, very directional, speeds tumble if you move it from its 'sweet spot', found by trial and error. Distributes the signal throughout the house no problem. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info, took a look at the Option site and like the concept of the Globesurfer as it looks like it will be capable of handling the increased speeds when 3 upgrade their network.

My only concern is it doesn't show the E367 in its compatability list, did you have any problems with set up, or did you need to download and firmware updates, or was it as simple as plug and play.

Well, the E367 only came out in the first week of April here in the UK, so maybe that is why it is not on the compatibilty list.
It worked straightaway, though you do have to set up the router with the right APN (3internet) etc etc the wizard takes you through it. It was just plug and play, no problems. Still, its like anything you get for the first time, sometimes things are a nightmare to set up when you are not familiar with them....

To add to the knowledge on the E367 dongle, here is my experience.

Generally speaking you may as well ignore compatibility lists since they're almost always way out of date. I'd also recommend that you first update the firmware for your router before adding a new device. This saves your remaining hair when problem solving.

I have this modem installed here and it works with pretty much anything from an ancient (in IT terms) D100 router, right through to much more modern devices such as the EnGenius ESR-6650.

For the technically minded, my installation is as follows:

Loft installed 15DBi Yagi antenna connected to the E367 antenna port (needed since I live in a rural area with incredibly difficult terrain). USB link to loft installed router. This installation is Ethernet connected to the office environment and provides WiFi across the rest of the house for both personal and staff use (I run an international business from home).

The installation supports always on internet connectivity for the primary office networked systems including a Windows 7 box, two MacBook Pro's, an iPad 2 and a couple of iPhone 4's.

Staff hardware automatically latch onto the network when visiting with no degradation in service.

Download speed is typically around the 6 Mbps mark with upload speed at a consistent 1.6 Mbps (the Three cell site still needs to be upgraded to support higher speeds).

Hope that helps others.

Be Well,

CHRIS

Post deleted by jsp21c

I'm running the E367 through a TP-Link TL-MR3420 3g router. I updated to the latest firmware before installing the dongle and it works a treat.
Sometimes the router says "3g Modem" and sometimes it says "E367" although it's not officially supported in the list.
Whatever the status says the dongle works great and the router itself is very reasonable at £33.18 from broadbandbuyer.

When using the dongle via USB and the 3Connect software it shows a full 5 bar signal, the TP-Link status shows a signal range of 50-60% but it doesn't make any difference, I'm still getting speeds in the range of 6-8 meg down and 1-1.6 meg up most of the time.

Today's dense question ::

Where's the antenna port on the modem? I bought an E367 as the service was failing, and despite my suspicion it was down to the cell it did turn out to be the modem.

I'd held off upgrading not knowing when the cell might be upgraded to support > 3.6Mbps but I ran a speed test yesterday and got 4.7Mbps down 1.5Mbps up so looks like it might be worth investing in the antenna and router kit now.

I've come across two types of antenna, "box" ones which seem to basically sit round the modem and boost the signal into it, and proper antenna/router combos which I think is what I need to go for. I can put the antenna on the chimney for line of sight.

The bit that puzzles me is: if I had an antenna and router, surely the SIM goes in the router, and I don't need the E367 anyway?

ASFAIK the std. adsl routers that support 3G simply have USB port to plug the dongle into.
If you do it on a lengh of USB extension cable, get a shielded one.
I got mine from french suppermarket (Geant) !

When I looked at dedicated 3G routers (while ago), they swere WAY too expensive.
Regards,
martin

That's what I keep coming across - 3G routers that you plug the dongle into.

Great, except I don't want to put the router on the chimney and I doubt it would get on very well with the rain.

The cost isn't so much the issue, as it compares well with satellite here (no cable available, phone line is too poor quality to support broadband).

I'm thinking £100 antenna, £100 router or thereabouts and I have a vision of an antenna on the chimney (have to get some radio/GPS minded person with a long ladder round for that so perhaps another £150) with a lead running to a router in my office, that with a wired connection for the PC and a wireless connection for phone/laptop.

This might achieve somewhere between absolutely nothing and significantly improved speeds and ping times but I may as well give it a try.

It's knowing what antenna is needed for a 2.5km "route" to the cell and what modem plugs into it.

I have now received my E367 and thought i would upgrade my firmware on my Edimax 3g 6200n to 2.2 to see if i would need to change the router.

To my complete surprise this simply plugged straight in and worked perfectly providing me with a peaked download of 6.96 Mbps.

Great little router for a bargain price.

In reply to a post by markthomas1973:

To my complete surprise this simply plugged straight in and worked perfectly providing me with a peaked download of 6.96 Mbps.

Excellent! I've got the same Edimax router (already has the 2.2 firmware) and was wondering if that dongle would work with it... On to placing my order now Thanks for sharing the info!

Got my E367 dongle from 3 mobile today (decided to go in store), and just confirming that yes indeed, it works with the Edimax 3G 6200n with firmware v2.2 without issue. It correctly displays as a "huawei E367" on the modem status page.

According to the status page, I'm getting a 58% signal (in W6 area), which is already an improvement from what I had in the past, but I am *really* impressed about the speeds I'm getting now. With all the high buildings and interference in the area, I've generally been achieving around 2 Mbps tops. I'm now running double that and ping times have been reduced to about 80ms-ish (that's with the WiFi router in the middle). I have taken those "up to 40% faster speeds" ads with a large grain of salt, but in my case it really did make a difference

Oh, and these dongles also have a little plastic/rubber piece covering access to an external antenna connector (looks like a proprietary size to me - it's on the side near the SIM cover). So there's no need to hack your brand new device to boost the signal - just plug it in. Thumbs up!

And once again thanks to markthomas for being the guinea pig on trying it on the Edimax.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Generally speaking you may as well ignore compatibility lists since they're almost always way out of date.
Hope that helps others.
Be Well,
CHRIS

Hm, I have Option Icon 515 (Orange) dongle, not listed on any compatibility lists I can find,
though TP-Link has Icon 505.., close, but I would like to be sure before parting with my dosh.
Anyone with the 515 & 3G router ?
Thanks,
Martin

Hi all -

I have been following this thread as it convinced me to get a E367 dongle, to improve my down & up speeds mostly for online gaming. I am currently out of work so funds are tight and I also begrudge paying BT any money whatsoever too. I was hoping for a major boost in performance speeds over the 3 MF112 I was previously running. With the MF112 I was typically getting an average of around 2mbps down and 1mbps up. With high's of 3.6mbps and 1.3mbps during the early hours of the morning.

Since purchasing the E367 I can now get an average of 3mbps + and 1.4mbps during the day. With new high's of 5mbps+ down and 1.6mbps up during the early hours of the morning. Which is a decent gain I feel. However I am looking to improve upon this even further and have ordered a TP-LINK TL-MR3420 3G Router. Which BTW now lists the E367 on its compatibility lists.

My thinking is to position this in my bedroom and get a better signal towards the mast, which is only about 500-600 metres away. I also plan to get an antenna next, to further optimize my signals reception, for a further boost. My question is which is the best set up for optimum performance? Do I plug the antenna into the dongle or the router?

This is the antenna I am looking at:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item...

Any help / advice would be much appreciated!!! ;O)

Cyber snipa, if you are that close to the mast, you won't get any benefit from using an external aerial, your speeds would be limited by congestion, not signal strengh.
The router has USB port for 3G, so aerial has to be plugged in to the dongle.
Regards,
Martin

Cyber Snipa, you mentioned the improvements in down/upload speeds but how much did it lower your ping?

Also at what distance does an external antenna start to be needed. Im about 2km away from the cell.

Thanks for the advice Martin. I've ordered the router now, so I'll set that up in my bedroom and hopefully it will give me a bit more of an improvement??? ;O)

Anon with regards to ping it fluctuates an awful lot. I usually just surf in the daytime and only game from 10.30pm onwards. I would say before with the MF112, the average was around the 170-180ms mark during the day previously. And it would go as low as 90ms ish in the early hours. Now with the E367 it is typically around 140-150ms during the daytime and I can go as low as 70ms in the early hours!!! ;O)

Edited by deleted (Fri 03-Jun-11 23:42:05)

Well as regards PING, mine now seems to fluctuate between 45ms and 75ms with the E367 which is a massive improvement on the old 3 dongle.
What really seems to affect the download speeds is where the router is situated; I must have done at least 20 or 30 speedtests to find where the sweet spot was and which way to face the router. Even a couple of inches seemed to make a difference between a downloadspeed of say 3mbps and 8mbps.
I think it really pays of to experiment with the router placement.

Just did this speedtest:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1326029831.png

@dpgs

45ms-75ms sounds great!

I take it your dongle is plugged directly into the back of your router and so they are as one hence your varying results depending on where you put your router.

Exactly that.
Dongle plugged into the router, router upstairs in a bedroom sending the wireless signal downstairs. And as I say, moving the router about seems to significantly affect the download speed.

You can try putting the dongle on a USB extension cable and position the dongle up against the glass of a window.

Over Christmas my wife and I were in a remote hotel in Yorkshire, having the Vodafone dongle up against the glass made the difference between Internet albeit slow and NO Internet. As you may have found, the verticle/horizontal position of the dongle can be critical.

Cheers!

Yeah as soon as my router arrives I'll be locating it on my bedroom window cill, for a more direct pathway to the mast. Hopefully further gains will be received!!!

I got this amazing result yesterday:-

http://speedtest.net/result/1325730714.png

Sadly it was a one off, but I was hitting 5Mbps + consistently. Lets hope Three gets the upgrades done PDQ, so that we can all enjoy the best speeds possible!!!

Does anyone have any tips on how to reduce ping??? I'd love to keep it at its lowest of around 70-80ms, around the clock.

Edited by deleted (Sun 05-Jun-11 14:58:53)

That was a good speed, but your PING looks high; no idea why. I just did a very early am test and got this best ever result, so who knows what we will get when they upgrade the masts.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1328332080.png

I have ordered this dongle now and also have the router edimax 3G-6200N and i get 5.4mbs average speed with the mf112 dongle so i wondered if the new dongle improved speeds past 7.2mbs would the router reduce it as the router says its only for 3g/HSPDA not hspa+.

Has anyone tried it in the pc and in the router to see if there is a speed difference?

Yes.

It's the same whether it's plugged into the computer or whether it goes via the router (Edimax 3G-6200n)

The downstream is pretty solid (5.4Mbps) despite the router only reporting a signal strength of 47%

The positioning does matter greatly. The upstream is more picky; it won't go above 1Mbps unless it's exactly right when it will stick at about 1.5Mbps.

Average ping is about 70ms.

With regard to the faster speeds - if I saw it hit say 7Mbps of the 7.2Mbps that the Edimax supports, then I'd think it was the choke point. However I did come across this bit of text on the ADSL24 website:

http://adsl24.co.uk/broadband/mobile/


When talking about Mobile Broadband speed, mobile operators refer to the theoretical maximum speed, known as the technical standard. In reality, it's not possible to achieve this speed and we want to be honest with you about what you can expect. Even though the network's theoretical maximum speed is 7.2 Mb, you'll actually experience up to a maximum of 5.6 Mb

Which suggests I'm getting the maximum available (or near as) and although I am getting an antenna put up on the chimney next month I'm not expecting huge gains (no pun intended).

Yes i get that but what is the router was only able to do 7.2mbs via 3G if another device which goes past 7.2 the router might not support it to the maximum speed. Will have to see will arrive tuesday.

My router wont go past 500-700kbs UL but if i plug it directly into the pc its 1.5mbs UL but i dont upload stuff so i dont care.

I am using a 3 E367 dongle with a Zoom travel router. I had to update the firmware to 1.0.12 (available from the Zoom website) and factory reset the router afterwards but after that it plugged straight in and worked without having to enter any settings into the router.
The new dongle is great my signal from the mast was 19% and is now fluctuating between 58 and 100 % depending on conditions. I have it upstairs in the nearest window to the mast and the dongle is on a 2 M USB extension. Full streaming video at last! It's a brilliant piece of kit.
My "old" dongle was a ZTE MF112.

I think I've just disproved the theoretical maximum of 5.6Mbps on a 7.2Mbps service.

http://speedtest.net/result/1386241242.png

So that bit simply isn't true.

Hi, how did you get the e367 modem to work with the D100 router tried everything to fix it still have wlan just the modem not talking to or receiving a signal though it does work on the laptop and d100 was working fine this morn

It's just as likely the speedtest result is wrong. There have been instances of speeds being reported in excess of the ADSL sync rate, which is impossible.

The Huawei E367 dongle works with the following Billion routers:

1) BiPAC 6200NXL - A broadband wireless router but require firmware version 1.02i.r3.
2) BiPAC 7402X series - A range of ADSL router with USB support. You will require firmware version 6.04b.ds1.