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(deleted) Thu 09-Jan-20 14:10:10
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Huawei B535 and capped connection on 4G+


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Hello,

I'm so new about this 4G+ modem and internet. I'm using it for 1 month. I bought as capped one as 10 Mbps (not living in the UK or Europe country). Unfortunately, there isn't any internet option except this one. No phone line either. So this one my final solution to the internet.

In daylight time I can see almost 20 Mbps. In heavy usage time, this rolling down to 4-5 Mbps. After midnight, such as 2-3 AM it becomes a monster like 60 Mbps.

The question is how this possible? Does that mean this connection did not cap to 10 Mbps? If yes, is there a possibility to set some trick on modem about this?

I found some options are hidden in modem such as manually setting DNS, etc. Also noticed, in daily usage, my IP location widely changing all over the country. Even I can see myself in the edge of the country as IP. Like 1000km away from my current place.

Honestly, I need advice, should I call Vodafone for this (maybe they can put me in some close tower) or silently use this unstable, uncapped connection and do some more trick if available around?

oh and I always get 5 bars without any losing one, my modem says I have RSRP -83dBm and mostly on band 1 or 3

so yeah. sorry for bad English.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Jan-20 15:47:21
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Sounds as if there are a lot of Vodafone users where you are.

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Jan-20 15:51:20
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There will be limited backhaul that will be being shared by everyone that is using the mobile connection.

During the night hours few people will be on so you will be able to get the max your signal allows.

During times where more people are using it you will be sharing that backhaul with everyone else. So, even if you still could theoretically see 60Mbps to the mast the connection further back in the network will be being shared and therefore your throughput will be lower. The busier the time of day the less throughput you will see.

Contention can happen at a number of places so it could be mast utilisation, backhaul from mast to network node, backhaul from network node to core network, connection from core network to Internet, etc - many places where you might get contention and the provider could potentially upgrade components to relieve contention but ultimately they could have to upgrade a lot of components to give you a service that is consistent day and night.

PS - as far as IP location it is likely that Vodafone have a number of IP addresses that you could go to the Internet on and the geolocation databases for IP can be pretty random for rapidly changing addresses (so the address you have now could have been used by a customer anywhere else within the area covered by Vodafone in the last day, week, month, etc). Geolocation for dynamic IPs is pretty useless.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 09-Jan-20 15:55:09
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When you say "capped one as 10Mbps", please confirm it is the speed that is capped, not the volume of throughput capped at 10GB per month?

I know that looks like a daft question, but this a type of misunderstanding I have seen a few times. G, M and B/b mixed up, the ps or pm missing.

You probably do mean what you posted, but if not it would explain why your speed varies up to much higher figures. Speeds can easily vary by that amount even in the UK.

Capping the speed to 10Mbps would not stop it dropping down to 4-5Mbps at busy times unless all other users on the mast were also capped, thus reducing the demand on the mast. Going down to 4-5Mbps from an achievable of 60Mbps that you see is almost certainly caused by too many high-speed users connecting to the mast.

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(deleted) Thu 09-Jan-20 16:15:12
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In reply to a post by ian72:
There will be limited backhaul that will be being shared by everyone that is using the mobile connection.

During the night hours few people will be on so you will be able to get the max your signal allows.

During times where more people are using it you will be sharing that backhaul with everyone else. So, even if you still could theoretically see 60Mbps to the mast the connection further back in the network will be being shared and therefore your throughput will be lower. The busier the time of day the less throughput you will see.

Contention can happen at a number of places so it could be mast utilisation, backhaul from mast to network node, backhaul from network node to core network, connection from core network to Internet, etc - many places where you might get contention and the provider could potentially upgrade components to relieve contention but ultimately they could have to upgrade a lot of components to give you a service that is consistent day and night.

PS - as far as IP location it is likely that Vodafone have a number of IP addresses that you could go to the Internet on and the geolocation databases for IP can be pretty random for rapidly changing addresses (so the address you have now could have been used by a customer anywhere else within the area covered by Vodafone in the last day, week, month, etc). Geolocation for dynamic IPs is pretty useless.


this is a very informative explanation. I understand the situation better. This is explain why I'm getting this kind of changeable speed on my internet. Thank you for enlightenment.
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(deleted) Thu 09-Jan-20 16:18:56
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
When you say "capped one as 10Mbps", please confirm it is the speed that is capped, not the volume of throughput capped at 10GB per month?

I know that looks like a daft question, but this a type of misunderstanding I have seen a few times. G, M and B/b mixed up, the ps or pm missing.

You probably do mean what you posted, but if not it would explain why your speed varies up to much higher figures. Speeds can easily vary by that amount even in the UK.

Capping the speed to 10Mbps would not stop it dropping down to 4-5Mbps at busy times unless all other users on the mast were also capped, thus reducing the demand on the mast. Going down to 4-5Mbps from an achievable of 60Mbps that you see is almost certainly caused by too many high-speed users connecting to the mast.


Yes, capped for speed. Not for the download limit. Pretty understand why this happening. Thanks for information as well RobertoS
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Jan-20 19:11:22
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
When you say "capped one as 10Mbps", please confirm it is the speed that is capped, not the volume of throughput capped at 10GB per month?


Vodafone has three unlimited data products:

1) capped at 2 Mbps = Unlimited Lite = £23/month
2) capped at 10 Mbps = Unlimited = £26/month
3) not capped = Unlimited Max = £30/month

These are visible here https://www.vodafone.co.uk/unlimited-data-plans/

I have older Vodafone and EE SIMs (not speed limited) and in many areas notice Vodafone has less capacity deployed, so I see speeds of around 40 Mbps on Vodafone and 80 to 90 Mbps on EE. These are in small towns - very different in big cities, inc London/Manchester/Cardiff etc.

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Standard User gary333
(member) Thu 09-Jan-20 19:45:29
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The poster is not from UK or Europe so I believe that�s why Robert would have been asking. The tariff restriction isn�t in play here, unless it�s time based or activated at a certain threshold as the poster has been able to exceed significantly.
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(deleted) Thu 09-Jan-20 20:21:07
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
When you say "capped one as 10Mbps", please confirm it is the speed that is capped, not the volume of throughput capped at 10GB per month?


Vodafone has three unlimited data products:

1) capped at 2 Mbps = Unlimited Lite = £23/month
2) capped at 10 Mbps = Unlimited = £26/month
3) not capped = Unlimited Max = £30/month

These are visible here https://www.vodafone.co.uk/unlimited-data-plans/

I have older Vodafone and EE SIMs (not speed limited) and in many areas notice Vodafone has less capacity deployed, so I see speeds of around 40 Mbps on Vodafone and 80 to 90 Mbps on EE. These are in small towns - very different in big cities, inc London/Manchester/Cardiff etc.


i wished i had an option as not capped. unfortunately, this thing is quite new in the country and guess, they're milking this new thing while selling them as capped connections. Besides its pretty expensive when you compare with dsl2 or fiber connection. But i have no option to buy them.
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The availability of bandwidth as its being shared on each mobile mast is not something the providers of this type of broadband solution are quick to talk about, is it?
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