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Standard User APTMAN
(committed) Fri 02-Feb-24 16:21:59
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Phone Cell Map.


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I once had a Mobile Phone Cell Map with the Ariel polarization diagrams, Direction they point, Transmitter Frequency's and power.

Any ideas as I can not find it now.

It was a web page map.

It's Not 'Cellmapper' !
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 02-Feb-24 17:36:45
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Re: Phone Cell Map.


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If you had an account, could have been mastdata.com ?

Ofcom had SiteFinder, but removed this when the data was vastly out of date. Don't think it had what you are after.

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Edited by jchamier (Fri 02-Feb-24 17:37:14)

Standard User derby13
(member) Sat 03-Feb-24 14:04:17
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Re: Phone Cell Map.


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Probably not the one you previously used but there's an unofficial map at mastdatabase.co.uk


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Standard User threelegs
(committed) Sat 03-Feb-24 16:25:08
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Re: Phone Cell Map.


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interesting set of maps on that site especially the streetworks one. looks like cityfibre are doing a lot of duct clearing in parts of Norfolk
Standard User Thaumaturge
(member) Fri 09-Feb-24 19:17:56
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Re: Phone Cell Map.


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I would be interested in finding out which MNOs transmit from the masts near me. CellMapper seems only to tell me about masts on my network. MastData has put all the useful stuff behind a paywall, and I'm not £16/mo interested. Mapdatabase would be OK, but it's very inaccurate around where I live - neither of the masts in my village is listed. I don't need the OP's polarisation details

Supplementary question: if an MNO has a presence at a site, does that mean that all MVNOs using that MNO will be available from there too?

Edited by Thaumaturge (Fri 09-Feb-24 19:21:31)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 09-Feb-24 19:57:00
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Re: Phone Cell Map.


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I would be interested in finding out which MNOs transmit from the masts near me. CellMapper seems only to tell me about masts on my network.
Use the cellmapper.net website, and you can zoom in to your area and change the MNO in the drop down on the side.

Supplementary question: if an MNO has a presence at a site, does that mean that all MVNOs using that MNO will be available from there too?

Yes, because only those with an Ofcom mobile licence can transmit, the Virtual network (MVNO) is buying time/capacity. The larger ones (e.g. Tesco mobile) are running their own billing and SIM cards, the smaller operations are paying the host network to do this for them (or a third party).

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Standard User Thaumaturge
(member) Sat 10-Feb-24 10:17:05
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Re: Phone Cell Map.


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Use the cellmapper.net website, and you can zoom in to your area and change the MNO in the drop down on the side.
Ah thanks, I think I have misunderstood the cellmapper.net display. If a mast shows up with a particular MNO selected, then it means that operator is known to transmit from there? In my case, both our local masts show up when any of the 4 MNOs is selected, so that means that they all share both sites? I had assumed that the display was showing mast locations independently of whether or not the MNO used that site.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 10-Feb-24 10:40:00
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In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:
Ah thanks, I think I have misunderstood the cellmapper.net display. If a mast shows up with a particular MNO selected, then it means that operator is known to transmit from there? In my case, both our local masts show up when any of the 4 MNOs is selected, so that means that they all share both sites? I had assumed that the display was showing mast locations independently of whether or not the MNO used that site.

When you select EE then only EE masts show. When you select Vodafone then only Vodafone masts show.

What might be confusing you is that the operators often share physical structures and antenna panels, but will have their own separate equipment cabinets at the base of the structure. The mast I can see from my windows is a very tall 1990s EE & Three shared site (owned by cellnex, formerly Arqiva).. Other side of the neighbourhood is a streetworks pole that was put in by Vodafone but also has O2 transmissions from.

If you are on 4G (LTE) then each mast will show a number, this is the "e Node B" and is unique to that network operator.

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Standard User Thaumaturge
(member) Sun 11-Feb-24 09:28:51
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What might be confusing you is that the operators often share physical structures and antenna panels, but will have their own separate equipment cabinets at the base of the structure...
No, not as subtle as that.. simply that (as I now understand it) both my local masts are shared by all 4 operators, so I couldn't tell the difference between that and the masts being shown independently of the operator selected, and I made the wrong interpretation.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 11-Feb-24 11:54:39
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No, not as subtle as that.. simply that (as I now understand it) both my local masts are shared by all 4 operators, so I couldn't tell the difference between that and the masts being shown independently of the operator selected, and I made the wrong interpretation.

The data could be old and incorrect, as cellmapper relies on people running the app on an android with the appropriate network SIM to pick up the data.

Can you share a location, or an eNB number?

It is very unusual to have all four operators from a mast, even on motorways you see two masts in a field, one for EE/3 and the other for O2/Vodafone. Streetworks poles are being deployed at speed to fill in coverage gaps, a large number by the 3 network to improve their 5G coverage. All networks have their own equivalent. Mostly the shared sites are the much larger structures, often owned by a neutral party such as Cellnex (formerly Arqiva).

What could be happening is as sites are upgraded you can get different eNB numbers almost overlapping, I see this frequently with O2 and Vodafone.

Some streetworks site examples:
https://pedroc.co.uk/content/vodafone-o2-monopoles
https://pedroc.co.uk/content/ee-three-monopoles

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Edited by jchamier (Sun 11-Feb-24 11:55:28)

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