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Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 18-Aug-14 15:42:48
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Re: Three 4G in London


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They should put loads up then.

Does the same thing happen in New York?

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Aug-14 21:09:06
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Re: Three 4G in London


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Does the same thing happen in New York?

Yes, people blamed the iPhone originally, but it turned out it was the network not having enough spectrum. (AT&T).

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Aug-14 21:10:08
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Re: Three 4G in Portsmouth


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Highest amount of data you can get on EE is 4Gb (sim only). Could easily use that in a day.

Guess you're watching video? If tethering, all my friends on 3 have a 2Gb a month limit for tethering now they're on new handsets.

I'm on 3Gb and only used it up once, probably using speedtest.net, and I bought a 2 day add on to keep me going.

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(deleted) Tue 19-Aug-14 14:18:00
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Standard User bookey
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 19-Aug-14 22:56:46
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Re: Three 4G in London


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There are limits, a 3G cell can only have 32 neighbour relationships for handover...
Lose 2 for it's other sectors on 3G (assumed 3 x 120 degree sectors on 3G and 2G and 4G)
Lose 3 more for 2G
Lose 3 more for 4G
Now down to 24 slots for neighbours, tall building? (like most in Docklands...)
you might have in-building solutions on various floors who need a handover to the external macro network pointing at it for people who work near windows / exit the building (ground floor only!)
Take One Canada Square in Canary Wharf, 50 floors with metalised windows so some move RF is reflected back so in-building systems required.

But around One Canada Square there are 10 buildings above 30 floors each with the same problem, your remaining 24 neighbour options ran out on the first building, what do you do for the other buildings in the area?!

The you have a problem of frequency reuse, each operator only had X amount of 2G/3G/4G spectrum, EE has a lot of the above but its still not enough, another 100Mhz 4G suitable spectrum from Ofcom would be handy....

So dropping in more cell sites can often make things worse, its a very difficult task to design a mobile network that serves the usage generated in such a tight location as Canary Wharf, 'The City of London' is easier because of smaller buildings and spread over the square mile.

And as James said, yes all major cities with very dense business districts have this problem.

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Standard User bookey
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 19-Aug-14 22:58:05
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Re: Three 4G in Portsmouth


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http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-tariffs/pay-monthly

20GB for £38.99 Per month.

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Standard User bookey
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 19-Aug-14 23:01:58
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Re: Three 4G in Portsmouth


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The BIG problem Three has is they lack the frequency.


Aren't they due to get more spectrum shortly?

I'd sooner have a bit slower headline speed and better general speeds (as Three offer) with unlimited use (as I have now) than EE's poor customer service, great headline, incredibly variable real world speeds any day.


EE have divested 18.5Mhz of 1800Mhz spectrum to '3', as far as I know '3' have only deployed 800Mhz for LTE this far, they will be using the 18.5Mhz of 1800Mhz for extra capacity in hand usage locations

Three has a small chunk of 800Mhz and 1800Mhz, but no 2600Mhz for use in the dense urban / airport locations.
O2 are even worse off as they only have 800Mhz for LTE no 1800Mhz no 2600Mhz.
They can use the 900Mhz off 2G for LTE as they have already re-farmed that for use on 3G (UMTS) @ 900Mhz, as have Vodafone on the 3G stack.

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Standard User bookey
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 19-Aug-14 23:03:54
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I would switch if EE's 3G coverage matched threes.


IT does, EE actually have more... Three and EE have a RAN sharing agreement for 3G services, google MBNL.

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Standard User bookey
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 19-Aug-14 23:11:43
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15 Miles or Meters?

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