In reply to a post by andynormancx:

We were averaging 1.5TB on Three and then EE, when 4G was the only option here that would get us more than 20 down, 3 up.

Thankfully now we have Starlink.

Starlink is currently available in your area!

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£75/mo for service and £460 for hardware.

Bloody hell - way too expensive! I get 575Meg down for just £12 a month on smarty.

In reply to a post by pluralist:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I always get over 1TB every month at home. Using broadband with 12 devices.

Ummmm.

I hope you are fibbing again.

Don't you live alone? IIRC you did have one family member there but she left some time ago. Even with her, twelve devices is rather a lot without a fair number of people in the house.

Unless of course there's a lot of business use, in which case you are breaking your ISP contracts and other things. The most devices I've seen in a house with one person was someone with a bank of seven computers, earning his living doing deep data mining for big businesses. (Or maybe that was his story and he was crypto-mining).

12 devices are one pc computer, cctv, xbox, 2 x mobile phones, 3 x TVs, 2 x freesat boxes, 2 x freeview boxes. Forget to add one more device is tablet.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 24-Feb-23 00:54:27)

Xbox probably the biggest bandwidth user, by default it auto updates any game installed, patches can easily be multiple 10s of gigs per update.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

Xbox probably the biggest bandwidth user, by default it auto updates any game installed, patches can easily be multiple 10s of gigs per update.

Blimey I never noticed it.

Confirmed EE are deploying SA although completion of the 5G core across sites will be 2026 at the earliest.

Notably my EE has 4G and I get 146Mbps, with 20Mhz of spectrum allocated to the connection. O2 is 5G at 42 (6am speedtest) with 10Mhz of spectrum allocated to the connection. Consistently O2 are lacking in speed / spectrum.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

12 devices are one pc computer, cctv, xbox, 2 x mobile phones, 3 x TVs, 2 x freesat boxes, 2 x freeview boxes. Forget to add one more device is tablet.

An impressive amount of kit! How many eyes and ears have you got, and how many hours in the day on your planet? Especially given how many you spend here on this one .

(Chrysalis's comment re Xbox noted).

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

their old approach was to have low towns coverage, and initially no rural, but the towns they enabled they packed it out and did a "proper" rollout.

Same as Vodafone and O2... back in 2012, EE rolled out 4G with 10MHz of Band3 spectrum, and in 2013 the Vodafone/O2 networks rolled out 10 MHz of Band 20 spectrum. 10 years later, EE has at least 20 MHz in most areas on Band 3, and in many more than 40 MHz, yet O2/Vodafone are in a lot of places struggling with 10,15 or 20 MHz.... unless you are in London, or another huge city...

This feels like the BT FTTP approach where they seem to be doing a scatter gun enabling lots of areas but with only small coverage in those areas. Hence my comment on a different investment approach.

Well EE's direction was long before BT acquired - but yes, the 5G is under BT management.

We do seem to be over kind on telco rollouts to rural areas in England, and there is a price to that felt by the cities.

I think some of this is planning issues. Plus in cities buildings and leases for mobile transmitters change all the time, but invisble as hidden on roof tops etc. In rural you can usually see a tower structure.

The pure simple explanation is the EE 5G rollout in my area is just not up to par, and nothing like how good the 4G rollout was, whatever the reason that fact cant be evaded. EE was the clear leader on 4G, there were miles ahead of even their closest competitor. So yes they had a high standard to follow, but it is what it is.

Maybe you had Huwaei kit deployed before the ban?

Depends on the network, some are better than others.

I have FTTC at home which is not brilliant, so I bought a Huawei 5G N5368X external AP on a famous auction site last July. I mounted in on a 10 foot mast lashed to the chimney on top of the roof; I get 5G service from Smarty (Three) for £18 a month. The Three 5G mast is 1.75km away according to Google maps measurement, and I always get more than 500Mbps down / 85Mbps up. In the early hours of the morning when the network is quiet I get over 700Mbps down. Here's a recent early hours of the morning test result. This was done at 02:49 on the 25th Feb '23. Pings are excellent too, in the low 20s and sometimes below 20ms.

I'll take 500/80 over my now comparatively slow 55/18 FTTC any day of the week - OR tell me that despite the next road having FTTP my road won't have it until 2026, so it's 5G for me until then.

In reply to a post by robaltech:

Depends on the network, some are better than others.

If you are near a new Phase 7 monopole site from Three, they have the mostspectrum assigned to 5G capacity of any network currently. This is at 3.5 GHz (Band n78) so in some buildings you may need an external antenna, or to situate in a window. The very useful site BIDB shows Three coverage and can give a clue as to where 5G transmission sites are. It is complete luck if you are covered, the high freqency means a lot of sites are planned by Three. (https://bidb.uk)

Other networks can manage high speeds on 5G and 4G, so don't rule them out. I'm only 25 miles from London Heathrow but no 5G here (outdoor or indoor) but I can often get between 250 and 350 Mbps from an EE 4G mast.

Edited by jchamier (Sat 25-Feb-23 10:37:15)

Huawei 5G N5368X are not safe security due to China