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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 08-Mar-23 09:28:52
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I bet we would not get anything near that here with 5G.

Quite common on Three or its guests (Smarty, ID mobile etc). Due to having 100 MHz of continuous spectrum at the 3.5 GHz frequency.

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 09-Mar-23 18:58:16
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5G is available here, but I am on the edge of the coverage by all the networks by the looks of it, But I do know of some people who have 5G phones, and they are said they get better signal with 4G.
As I have said before, makes no odds to me, I don't have a 5G phone and I am in no rush to get one either.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Mar-23 20:18:58
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5G is available here, but I am on the edge of the coverage by all the networks by the looks of it, But I do know of some people who have 5G phones, and they are said they get better signal with 4G. As I have said before, makes no odds to me, I don't have a 5G phone and I am in no rush to get one either.

As I’ve said many times (probably in this exact thread) the UK deployment of 5G is alongside 4G, it doesn’t replace. Phone calls are still carried over 4G for example. Think of 5G as additional lanes on the motorway.

Your next phone will come with 5G for free, until then forget about it, and this thread.

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 09-Mar-23 22:13:27
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As I’ve said many times (probably in this exact thread) the UK deployment of 5G is alongside 4G, it doesn’t replace. Phone calls are still carried over 4G for example. Think of 5G as additional lanes on the motorway.

Your next phone will come with 5G for free, until then forget about it, and this thread.


I know, 5G is alongside 4G, but what is the point if it doesn't work?
If my next phone comes with 5G or not depends on the phone I buy and when I buy it, hopefully it will be a few more years, I want to get as much use out of my phone as I can. But if it does come with 5G and if the 5G here have not improved it will be disabled.

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Standard User andynormancx
(committed) Thu 09-Mar-23 22:33:31
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I know, 5G is alongside 4G, but what is the point if it doesn't work?


It does work, it adds extra capacity to the networks.

As has been pointed out here multiple times, the key benefit of 5G isn't really higher speeds, it is more network capacity.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Mar-23 23:15:19
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I know, 5G is alongside 4G, but what is the point if it doesn't work?
It does work, very well, but UK deployment so far is at high frequency as there is still 3G and 4G in the lower frequencies. As capacity needs increase over the next 10 to 15 years, then the lower frequencies will be used for 5G and 4G replaced. Think longer term.

If my next phone comes with 5G or not depends on the phone I buy and when I buy it, hopefully it will be a few more years, I want to get as much use out of my phone as I can. But if it does come with 5G and if the 5G here have not improved it will be disabled.
If you notice it causing a problem, feel free, but more and more phones will not let you do this, as the networks don’t want you to as they need to balance capacity.

Imagine driving down the M6 with 3 lanes and everyone using the left lane only, causing huge traffic jams and complaining “its rubbish this motorway” because everyone had removed the indicator letting them move right and use additional capacity… Its that insane your suggestion.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Mar-23 23:17:07
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As has been pointed out here multiple times, the key benefit of 5G isn't really higher speeds, it is more network capacity.
As was 4G when it arrived, now 10 or 11 years later the previous standard is being turned off (3G)….

Some of these threads don’t understand the time it takes to roll out new technology, or get widespread adoption. 10 years is pretty quick… 4G was faster than expected because majority of people were moving from phone calls to internet communications, and so packet switched took over from circuit switched. The name “Long Term Evolution” fit really well.. !

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Mar-23 23:59:20
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5G is available here, but I am on the edge of the coverage by all the networks by the looks of it, But I do know of some people who have 5G phones, and they are said they get better signal with 4G.
As I have said before, makes no odds to me, I don't have a 5G phone and I am in no rush to get one either.


5G can flick between 5G and 4G on the mobile that caused drain the battery. I just turn off 5G on my mobile. Just using standard 4G. I only use 5G at home using 5G Hub.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 10-Mar-23 09:39:26
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because everyone had removed the indicator letting them move right and use additional capacity… Its that insane your suggestion.
There are many drivers on motorways that will confirm to you that indicators are not required to change lanes smile
Standard User Philce
(experienced) Fri 10-Mar-23 10:48:03
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I know, 5G is alongside 4G, but what is the point if it doesn't work?


It does work, it adds extra capacity to the networks.

As has been pointed out here multiple times, the key benefit of 5G isn't really higher speeds, it is more network capacity.


O2 here in Leicester 5G is useless, even on a normal afternoon, I have to turn it off.
Its all about increasing capacity, but its either not set up correctly within the network, or its just overloaded?

Been to several large events (football games etc) and the phone is as useless as it is on 4G with full 5G signal.

5G is all about capacity, something isnt right!
Perhaps they have just taken on too many customers with the VM Volt stuff, but like this its simply unusable at times.
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