I thought they had been taken over by EE who in turn are now part of BT?

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I thought they had been taken over by EE who in turn are now part of BT?

Yes they already with EE (use to be o2) but lycamobile won't work in any home broadband. Only mobile phone

You are right :-
https://thumbsnap.com/awu6o5oa
Despite all lights on ZTE showing up as blue.
https://thumbsnap.com/bjbhztpj

Edited by hk11 (Wed 19-Jul-23 13:04:54)

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I thought they had been taken over by EE who in turn are now part of BT?

confusion!! Lyca are an independent company whom pay EE for network air time, and sell that to you, Lyca run all the marketing, support and billing. EE is part of BT Group, as is Plusnet.

It won’t be long before there is no choice and you can only get telecom products from BT!

Now why does that seem familiar?

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It won’t be long before there is no choice and you can only get telecom products from BT!

You have FOUR physical networks, owned by different companies.

EE - owned by BT Group (UK)
O2 - owned by VirginMediaO2, which itself is 50/50 owned by Liberty Global (USA), and Telefonica (Spain).
Three - owned by CK Hutchison Holdings (Hong Kong)
Vodafone - owned by Vodafone Group (UK).

All the other "mobile networks" are virtual, such as Asda Mobile, GiffGaff, Lyca Mobile, there are more than 50. Listed on Wikipedia. Some such as SMARTY or VOXI are owned by one of the companies that also operates a physical network, but most are owned by separate companies (e.g. ASDA) that run their own customer care, billing, and helpdesk and buy capacity from one of the 4 physical networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom...

It will all change next week/month/year.

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It will all change next week/month/year.

Three and Vodafone have submitted to the Competition and Markets Authority they wish to merge their businesses, but the CMA can, and often does, say no.

Physical networks take decades to build and billions of pounds in money. So they don't change hands very often at all.

EE came about when Orange (France) and T-Mobile (Germany) merged their two UK organisations into one, and the french company wanted their money back, so the new merged organisation was put up for sale. BT Group won the bid.

You'll need to be clear when you say "BT" if you mean the whole Group (a bit large), the Openreach bit that connects your home to the internet provider of your choice, or the BT Retail part that sells internet access.

Yes, sorry: the old BTW v BTR fing.

Nope - BTWholesale is not Openreach...

BT Retail and BT Broadband are customers of BT Wholesale.

Openreach provides services to Communications Providers. Openreach is responsible for the provision and maintenance of the "final mile" copper pairs that connect our homes to the telephone exchange and are a supplier to BT Wholesale (amongst a myriad of CPs)