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Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 17:48:13
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For some reason the internet seems very slow through my wireless adapter, the signal is probably two off from being full but still some things wouldn't load through it, connected ethernet cable up and everything working perfect now, any suggestions?.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 31-Oct-12 17:57:34
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What is the link speed reported in the properties of the wireless connection?
Wireless frequently can connect but suffer from interference that results in the speed going up and down dynamically.

If you move the computer into the same room as the wireless adapter do things improve?

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www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 17:59:09
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I haven't tried putting the computer in the same room as it will be difficult to pick up the whole computer plus the wireless router is in the hall, i will look at the link speed now and report back as i am on ethernet right now.


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Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:02:53
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Link speed is 54Mbps.

Edited by tomxlisa (Wed 31-Oct-12 18:18:51)

Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:22:18
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You may be getting interference from another router, in which case you may benefit from using a different wireless channel. You can use inSSIDer to check for nearby routers.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
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Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:23:44
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The kids was trying to use this site and the games was hardly loading, web browsing doesn't seem too bad but it is for sure faster through ethernet, the kids used that site again through ethernet and the games was loading really fast, this is the site.

http://andkon.com/arcade/
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:26:24
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The site that you are trying to access is pretty irrelevant. You need to sort out your wireless configuration.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
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Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:30:13
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I have just tried something, plugged out the wireless adapter and put it in the side USB's in the front of the case, it seems to be working ok now, checked the signal and that still remains the same so are one of my USB's in the back not setup properly or something?.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:36:10
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It could be that you have USB 1.0 on your motherboard, especially if it is old. You should also check if there are any firmware upgrades or updated device drivers available for your motherboard.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
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Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:39:53
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I have only just bought the motherboard and installed all drivers from the CD, it seems it never solved the problem anyways, just tried to load a game off that site for the kids and it struggled, put ethernet back in and it was flying, strange.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:46:25
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Drivers on installation CDs are usually out of date. Check the manufacturer's website.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:49:56
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I will do, it could be the wireless adapter i have though, it isn't the best one, it is only a cheap thing from ebay, could that be the reason also?.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 18:56:55
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TBH, I would always use a PCI/PCIe wireless adapter on a desktop, not USB. Something like this should fly along. What wireless standard is your router, and what slots are available on your motherboard?

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:00:18
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The router is a wireless N router i think, and i have plenty of slots available on my motherboard that i am not using, i have just checked the USB drivers and they are 2006, so quite old, there are newer ones on the site shall i try them, would it just be the USB drivers i would need to update to hopefully make it work properly?.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:03:11
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Yes. Just update the USB drivers. Is your mobo PCI or PCIe? I'm guessing PCIe in which case the wireless adapter that I pointed to won't fit unless there's a PCI slot available.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:04:52
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I think i do have a PCI slot on the motherboard which is available, i am not keen on the aerial though, do you have to use that, i will update the drivers now and report back.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:11:49
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I like external aerials because you can position them to get the best reception. You can get cards where the aerials just plug into the back of the card such as this. What's your router? I know you've probably posted this info before but I haven't been keeping track.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:25:39
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My router is just one that my ISP give me, it cant be the router though as it is fine through ethernet, i did try and update my USB drivers, i think i did some but in device manager it is still saying 2006 for the date, strange.

Edited by tomxlisa (Wed 31-Oct-12 19:27:50)

Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:32:39
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In reply to a post by tomxlisa:
My router is just one that my ISP give me
It would help to know what it is in order to select a suitable wireless card.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:42:01
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Think it is this.

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?...
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:53:59
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This should do the business.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 19:56:01
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I just done a speedtest and even speeds on the tests are slow, just done one with the ethernet and its full speed.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:00:13
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One thing you could try is limiting your router to 802.11g. This is a slower connection than 802.11n but can be more reliable and give higher throughput. You might have to change your wireless adapter settings as well.

Belay that. You are getting good throughput on your front-panel USB ports.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts

Edited by micksharpe (Wed 31-Oct-12 20:01:12)

Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:02:40
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I have just checked the channel and no other routers are on the same channel as mine, so cant be that, i will try your idea.
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:08:43
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This is a strange one though as on my other motherboard i had, an old one too, it was fine, so it cant really be the dongle i am using can it?.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:12:09
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Have you looked for any others with the same motherboard and USB issues?

Wireless USB dongles can show up weaknesses in a USB port - does file copies to and from a USB key go fast and smoothly?

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:14:42
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This is the motherboard, i have not tried that yet as i cant find my USB file storage device.

http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8...

Edited by tomxlisa (Wed 31-Oct-12 20:14:55)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:17:31
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Does it let you turn off the USB 3 support in the bios? Worth a try

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:21:43
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Could that be causing the problems, i thought that would help it?.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:24:23
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In that case, no. The problem looks like a dodgy USB port or out-of-date firmware/drivers. I think you need to make sure that all the firmware and drivers for your motherboard are up-to-date.

Edit: Of course, it could just be the positioning of the wireless dongle. Have you tried moving the PC around?

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
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It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts

Edited by micksharpe (Wed 31-Oct-12 20:26:41)

Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:32:10
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Does it let you turn off the USB 3 support in the bios? Worth a try
Or use a USB 2.0 port. I find that the USB 3.0 ports on my PC don't work that well.

P.S. The USB 3.0 controller will have it's own firmware/drivers. Updating the USB 2.0 firmware/drivers will not affect the USB 3.0 controller.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts

Edited by micksharpe (Wed 31-Oct-12 20:34:16)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:43:38
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If your wireless dongle is only USB 2 then it may not have tested or even designed to work well with USB 3

Early releases of faster devices/ports are riddled with compatability issues

A Wireless Ethernet Adapter might be a better idea, I hate USB for networking

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User micksharpe
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:44:53
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
I hate USB for networking
Agreed.

'Sir, please,' she said ... 'Will you not share your wisdom with us?'
'I have no wisdom,' he told her.
'Your experiences, then?'
'They have been trivial, uninteresting, and full of error.'
Ian M. Banks - Feersum Endjinn
.
It Ought to be Easy | Greasemonkey scripts
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Wed 31-Oct-12 23:11:20
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
If your wireless dongle is only USB 2 then it may not have tested or even designed to work well with USB 3

Early releases of faster devices/ports are riddled with compatability issues

A Wireless Ethernet Adapter might be a better idea, I hate USB for networking

So what is a wireless ethernet adapter, is that the same thing that micksharpe mentioned to me?.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 31-Oct-12 23:25:22
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http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?...

A list of the devices, the TP-Link is probably enough for your needs, we reviewed the Asus EA-N66 recently, but its not cheap http://www.thinkbroadband.com/hardware/reviews/74-as... which may give a few more ideas.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Thu 01-Nov-12 07:57:44
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I think i am going to go back to ethernet and lay the cable down, cant really beat it, don't have to worry about signal, don't have to worry about security with people nicking your bandwidth, and it seems much quicker and smoother than wireless.
Standard User greenglide
(committed) Thu 01-Nov-12 09:48:26
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If your wireless router is really a wireless N device then a wireless access point such as this http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-WA701ND-150Mbps-W... should work quite happily.

The wireless access points connect with a ethernet cable to the PC (and we know your ethernet works) and have the advantage that they can be sited for maximum signal strength.

You can also use the wireless access point that SKY do for their SKY+ HD boxes. The new wireless N one was £9.99 (no £21.99 or so) which was great value. All you need to do is to connect it to the SKY box, set up the wireless password and then disconnect it and connect it to the PC - the AP remembers the password!

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Standard User tomxlisa
(member) Fri 02-Nov-12 02:26:19
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Thanks for that, but i think i am just going to go back to using ethernet, never known my internet to be so quick like it has the last couple of days using ethernet.
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