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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 03-Jan-20 20:31:00
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Hi I�m just swapping from plusnet using bt modem and Asus router to talk talk which the router is a router modem combo. I�m guessing the talk talk router won�t be brilliant so shall I get a new router modem combo if so what is good these days or keep the bt modem and buy a new router.

My Asus is an old one so want to get something new
Standard User rowter
(learned) Fri 03-Jan-20 20:49:50
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I really like my ASUS router. I would turn off the wireless on the TT one and use it as a ethernet connection point and 1 being my ASUS for the wireless
Standard User mbames
(committed) Fri 03-Jan-20 21:04:50
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I'm a Draytek user.... certainly not cheap, but does everything I need (and plenty more!)

Vodafone Fibre (Superfast2 - 80/20), Draytek 130, DrayTek 2925, DrayTek AP-910c x 2
(Gone but not forgotten: AP-700, 2820n x 2, 2800vg, 2800, HG612)

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 03-Jan-20 21:09:24
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If you're getting the TalkTalk Wifi Hub, then i would give it a try as its supposed to be quite good.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 03-Jan-20 21:13:26
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Yes I�m going to first .i just don�t think the range is going to be up to what I need so just getting ideas
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Fri 03-Jan-20 23:49:37
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In reply to a post by Thomasjc1:
Yes I�m going to first .i just don�t think the range is going to be up to what I need so just getting ideas
The range is as good as top of the range routers, it is on par with BTs SmartHub. I suspect it will be fine.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Jan-20 23:53:11
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The ASUS hardware is very close to Draytek with some nice tweaks. Such as Merlin�s build, and if that�s not enough you can run Tomato on most of them.

I had Draytek for years in ADSL days, and now think they are slightly overpriced.

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(deleted) Sun 05-Jan-20 14:06:54
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So if I was to get a new router would you go just new router and use the BT modem or buy a router with built in modem. Again this is after I�ve tried the talk talk one
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(deleted) Sun 05-Jan-20 14:22:42
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It depends on what functionality you require from a router. Standalone routers can be more powerful, be tri-band wifi equipped, allow third party firmware such as DD-WRT to be installed and generally offer more advanced features. On the other hand, if you just plan to do the basic stuff then an all-in-one option is better.

If you want a 2 box setup, then i would suggest something like the Draytrek 130 + Netgear R7800. For a 1 box solution something like the Billion 8900AX would be perfect.

But give the Talktalk Superhub a try first, you might be pleasantly surprised wink
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 05-Jan-20 14:23:29
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In reply to a post by Thomasjc1:
So if I was to get a new router would you go just new router and use the BT modem or buy a router with built in modem. Again this is after I�ve tried the talk talk one

Depends what you want, not all the routers with built in modems are as good as the Ethernet versions. e.g. avoid the ASUS DSL-AC88U as it has less features than the RT-AC88U, and can't take alternative firmware.

For a VDSL modem (for FTTC) connections, I suggest a ZyXel VMG1312-B10A which can be configured in a modem mode. Or you can keep using an Openreach modem (e.g. Huawei HG612) until it fails.

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(deleted) Tue 14-Jan-20 21:18:24
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Definetely changing to a new router the talk talk hub is [censored]. Lots of places in the house where the WiFi is rubbish
Standard User burble
(member) Tue 14-Jan-20 22:16:18
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Is it the Sagemcom Fast 5364? I have experience of 3 of these and the WiFi has been pretty good at my home, just today I was checking reception on my windowsphone around the garden, got WiFi through 2 walls and 25m away.
At a industrial unit there where differences, as reported by a friend, I lent him my spare router to replace a Netgear Nighthawk which kept dropping signal, the Fast 5364 worked perfectly, he ordered his own but when trying it the signal kept dropping, I'm guessing due to the number of adjacent units using WiFi, left my one with him and took his home and as above worked OK. I'm guessing they where set to different bands, something which isn't a problem at my house with only two other properties within (edge of) range.
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(deleted) Tue 14-Jan-20 22:27:31
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I�m gutted as thought it would be fine but my old ASUS RT N66U has way better range. I�ve had 2 daughters and a son moan about it already and only got it connected today and as we speak I�m only on 2 bars on my iPhone and I always get full signal. Sagemcom cs50001 it says on the back

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Standard User burble
(member) Tue 14-Jan-20 22:41:46
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In reply to a post by Thomasjc1:
I�m gutted as thought it would be fine but my old ASUS RT N66U has way better range. I�ve had 2 daughters and a son moan about it already and only got it connected today and as we speak I�m only on 2 bars on my iPhone and I always get full signal. Sagemcom cs50001 it says on the back


That's not the latest hub, which as I posted is the Sagemcom Fast 5364
p.s. a quick check online and that appears to be the power supply not the router
this is the Fast 5364 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBDu-V-KqQI

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 14-Jan-20 22:46:04
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I dunno then because that�s what they sent me last week

How do I know what model it is

Found it yes it is 5364

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Standard User burble
(member) Tue 14-Jan-20 23:13:15
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I'm not sure why your router is not performing, but my experience is they work well. but note as my other post one of these didn't seem to like congested WiFi whilst another worked fine.
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(deleted) Wed 15-Jan-20 16:18:04
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As well as the range isn�t great I�m also not getting very good speeds. With plusnet I would get between 68-72 on WiFi and with talk talk only getting 53 next to the router
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Jan-20 18:04:38
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Have you tested speeds using an ethernet cable to a laptop or desktop to check what speeds you can get without WiFi ?

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(deleted) Wed 15-Jan-20 18:23:00
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About 57 Mbps wired
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Jan-20 18:47:56
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Then perhaps moving ISP has lost you some speed. Maybe you are paying less? You need to check the product you are on and the promised speeds at sign up.

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20 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM

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(deleted) Wed 15-Jan-20 18:59:57
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Promised 73

Router stats say
Download 72.7
Upload 20

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Jan-20 22:24:35
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Then your link to the exchange is good, but your throughput to the internet is reduced. ISPs are not all the same.

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(deleted) Sat 18-Jan-20 08:27:07
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Router stats now
Download 79.4
Upload 20

Speed on Speedtest.net around 64 so getting better and Wi-Fi signal seems better now for some reason

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 18-Jan-20 09:14:06
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With a router sync at 79.4 then I would hope for a Wired (Ethernet) speed test in the 70s on a computer. WiFi is problematic due to radio interference from other people�s routers, so you always get slower. Using 5GHz band and being close to the router helps.

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(deleted) Sat 18-Jan-20 09:29:47
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Yes totally understand that with WiFi interference. But to be honest my WiFi speeds and wired speeds have for the last 8 years been nearly exactly the same. Yes I would expect higher speeds with a sync of 79.4

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