BT/OR used an approx 10 metre ethernet cable (RJ45) from the master socket, via the adsl front connection on a filter faceplate, to the modem/router?Might cause confusion when reconnecting cables to the router in the future though if that was the case...

BT/OR fitted a new Master Socket with 'phone and ADSL sockets. Ran a plugged cable from the ADSL socket to a new extension socket (hard-wired). Modem plugged into that and ethernet from Modem to Router.

Hope that clarifies.

making up the cable is simpler if you have to pass through holes in the wall or similar, plugs are quite a bit bigger than the cable itself.

G3UZF,

Seems odd that they didn't run a twisted pair from the AB connections on the back of a filtered faceplate (if available) to the new extension socket - hard wired at both ends.

Alternatively, an approx 30 foot twisted pair hard wired on the back of a filtered faceplate and plugged, at the other end, directly into a modem/router (RJ11?) would have only one plug and perhaps be more efficient, though less neat?

As you questioned: " BT/OR.....they know best?"

Thanks for the clarification

4M2.

Edited by 4M2 (Sun 02-Oct-11 12:24:13)

yarwell,

Yes there would be a need to thread the ethernet cable to an upstairs room through a ceiling and floor boards but not through any walls - it would run alongside an existing voice extension hard wired to the back of a filtered faceplate with its own voice only extension socket.

Will have to check out the costs of 100% Copper CAT5e...

Andrew said that ethernet is good for up to 100 metres so that would give much more flexibility regarding positioning of equipment upstairs and the possible need to drill through any upstairs walls at a later stage.

4M2.

Run the cable amd if possible leave some spare in the ceiling or floor. At each end use a wall mount pattress box with a single RJ45 socket. A lot easier than putting RJ45 plugs on the end (which is not normal or easy on infrastructure cable), simple to move later and cheaper tooling. Then use patch leads from modem to socket and second socket to router.

MHC,

That certainly sounds like the professional way of doing it

It my case it would initially be router to socket and second socket to computer - I just thought it might be better to keep the connections to a minimum, i.e. RJ45 at the router, length of cable with plenty to spare and RJ45 to the computer.

Apparently cutting the inner strands of cable, once singled out, at an angle of 45 degrees across the splay makes it much easier to fit a RJ45 plug - haven't done it but it looks straight forward enough...

Don't worry about keeping connections to a minimum ... mine goes: Patch lead from Router to Switch, Patch lead from Switch to Patch Panel, Infrastructure Cable (up to 25 metres) from Patch panel to Socket, Patch Cable from Socket to PC?Device and in a coupe of cases a back to back connector for devices too far from the socket.

Or run 2 cables and fit 2 sockets at the router end, with the other ends going to either the same place or different end points.

Once you have done a few RJ45s are reasonably easy, but a decent tool is not cheap (mine was over £120 about 5 years back) and the cable you will be using is not suited for terminating in plugs - the connector blade goes though and can sometimes miss the conductor. The cable is fine for use on IDCs though.

MHC,

I really appreciate your advice: two sockets and ethernet cable connected to the IDCs definitely looks like the best solution, plus initially a couple of patch cables connecting the router (located near to the master) to the first socket and from the second socket upstairs to the computer. This will allow further devices to be added at a later stage and with plenty of spare cable that second socket upstairs could be moved to a different location if required.

Nice one

4M2.

MHC,

Another hypothetical plan, though probably not as good as using Infrastructure Cable, might be based on this http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/nte5.htm - I do have a "spare" NTE5 and filtered face plate. What would be the best type of cable to use for the connections 2 & 5 to A & B - presumably twisted pair rather than normal telephone extension cable - and over what length before RF noise could become a factor?

This would mean that unfiltered voice and adsl would be combined into a single cable from the BT master line box to the NTE5 line box, rather than having two cables: i.e. one for ethernet and another filtered for voice. The NTE5 line box, with filtered faceplate, could perhaps be positioned upstairs close to a mains socket for powering the router.

However would the existing downstairs BT master line box with filtered faceplate still be good for connecting the downstairs phone?

Telephone wire is twisted pair and would work. Yes you could use the master as a filtered connection for a phone.

It might be perfect but the RF environment around your house is a total unknown ... That is why the suggestion is to convert from ADSL to Ethernet as soon as possible.