One reason it is cheap is that they have cut corners and not fully tested the device. They leave it to customers to find problems which they then might or might not sort out.

In reply to a post by greenglide:

The Samknows White Box is a monitoring box, provided free by Samknows, which collects performance data for collation by Samknows as part of their contract with some part of the European Union.

Produces lots of pretty graphs and hourly performance and stability reports.

Since this is connected after the router it knows nothing about the ADSL data (SNR, sync rates etc) but measures up / down speed tests, ping responses etc.

Quite cool and like running a whole barrage of tests each hour!

i see, So what will it prove that we in the UK got naff broadband?

In reply to a post by MHC:

One reason it is cheap is that they have cut corners and not fully tested the device. They leave it to customers to find problems which they then might or might not sort out.

You got proof of that or is it just your opinion? going by some of the bugs in the more expensive products I am not sure if Netgear, Belkin and others do much testing to be honest.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by MHC:

One reason it is cheap is that they have cut corners and not fully tested the device. They leave it to customers to find problems which they then might or might not sort out.

You got proof of that or is it just your opinion? going by some of the bugs in the more expensive products I am not sure if Netgear, Belkin and others do much testing to be honest.

Proof - your earlier posting demonstrated that the User Interface had not been tested with potential users or the "incorrect wording" would have been picked up by native English speakers.

Which we already know!

I assume it may also compare different providers in terms of "real speed" rather than quoted values. Could also validate the new "average" speeds now required to be quoted rather than the headline speed.

Ofcom publishes reports every six months or so, but are numerous flaws with the methodology, and questions about the normalisation that goes on etc

Numbers are good if you accept that 2000'ish boxes spread around the UK, across a dozen or so providers gives a complete picture.

In reply to a post by MHC:

Proof - your earlier posting demonstrated that the User Interface had not been tested with potential users or the "incorrect wording" would have been picked up by native English speakers.

i also found Egress Bandwidth and Ingress Bandwidth on netgear, cisco and other sites. I presume it is a network thing. Just never noticed before.

I also noticed on the UI of my router, it tells me what it means, well kind off, which I missed.

so that is no proof at all.

I presume that a disproportionate percentage of the 2000 would be broadband enthusiasts / hobbyists. Whether that would mean a disproportionate percentage of better lines than expected, I have no idea.

In reply to a post by greenglide:

Which we already know!

I assume it may also compare different providers in terms of "real speed" rather than quoted values. Could also validate the new "average" speeds now required to be quoted rather than the headline speed.

just a shame they still lie their backside off and tell people they can get more than they can, well Talk Talk certainly does as they told me I can get 6 megabits from here, a load of bull.