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(deleted) Sun 08-Jul-12 12:20:48
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Re: Can Orange Brightbox be used as router for Virgin Cable?


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In reply to a post by Sandgrounder:
Have you tried using Home plugs (say, Devolo) to take the wired network upstairs.

I haven't as I'm hoping to get this working. But rather than Home plugs wouldn't a good wireless router like the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND be a cheaper workable solution?
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(deleted) Sun 08-Jul-12 12:49:58
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Re: Can Orange Brightbox be used as router for Virgin Cable?


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In reply to a post by drkash:
In reply to a post by E7er:
In reply to a post by drkash:
Hi, you can setup your Orange Bright Box as the wireless access point. wink

Virgin Super Hub IP Address: 192.168.0.1

Make Virgin Super Hub DHCP

DHCP Start: 192.168.0.21
DHCP End: 192.168.0.250

Make the Orange Bright Box IP Address: 192.168.0.251

Disable Orange Bright Box DHCP.

Make wireless channel the same as Super Hub.

Make wireless security the same as Super Hub.

The wireless access point is connected to the router with Cat5e Ethernet cable LAN port to LAN port.

Thanks for the advice. I finally managed to get a connection but am having problems with the wireless connection. The superhub and Brighbox are connected via ethernet. I can get a connection ok when I connect my laptop to the Brightbox via Ethernet. Wireless connection worked for around 5-10mins but since when I try to connect wirelessly there's no internet??

Also I can't access the Brightbox's config page. I changed the IP as advised to 192.168.0.251 - when I type this in to Firefox nothing happens, also the old IP 192.168.1.1 also doesnt work??

Additionally my iPhone wont connect to the Brightbox at all (it used to without any problems when I was using it for Orange broadband weeks ago)

Thanks for any help once again
Hi, okay! You need to see if the configuration is correct! On your taskbar if using Windows, you should see grey monitor icons, one for the Ethernet connection and one for wireless, right click mouse on them and select Status/Properties, now in �Local Area Connection Properties� scroll down to �Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)� select this, then Properties.

You should see for Ethernet�

Use Following IP Address:

IP address: 192.168.0.? <- important make sure this is within the static range, this is your PC Ethernet connection.
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gatway:192.168.0.1

Use the following DNS server address:
Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.1


You should now see for wireless�

Use Following IP Address:

IP address: 192.168.0.? <- important make sure this is within the static range, this is your PC wireless connection.
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gatway:192.168.0.1

Use the following DNS server address:
Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.1


Make the Ethernet connection IP address: 192.168.0.3
Make the Wireless connection IP address: 192.168.0.13

Edited by deleted (Sun 08-Jul-12 13:14:18)

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(deleted) Sun 08-Jul-12 13:44:47
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Ok will try that. I managed to get it all working with an old Netgear ADSL router, but its wireless signal is [censored] too! The settings page on the Netgear is the same as the Superhub - they both have a LAN IP page so I could modify the IP. However the Orange Brightbox hasn't got a LAN IP page and so I changed this on the Broadband settings page...changed to static IP address, added IP, subnet and default gateway. Could this be anything to do with the problem I encountered??


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(deleted) Sun 08-Jul-12 14:05:52
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In reply to a post by drkash:
Ok will try that. I managed to get it all working with an old Netgear ADSL router, but its wireless signal is [censored] too! The settings page on the Netgear is the same as the Superhub - they both have a LAN IP page so I could modify the IP. However the Orange Brightbox hasn't got a LAN IP page and so I changed this on the Broadband settings page...changed to static IP address, added IP, subnet and default gateway. Could this be anything to do with the problem I encountered??
Hi, to configure the Bright Box IP address, you go... advanced set-up/dhcp/gateway address,

make the Bright Box IP address: 192.168.0.251

DHCP Server: Disable

then you save settings.
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(deleted) Sun 08-Jul-12 15:46:14
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Definitely moving in the right direction!
After doing this
"configure the Bright Box IP address, you go... advanced set-up/dhcp/gateway address"
...I can now access the Brightbox settings page using 192.168.0.251

However a similar problem to before - internet accessed only initially via wireless but then I lost it again after switching to Virgin Superhub wireless connection and back. Ethernet connection works fine.

You need to see if the configuration is correct! On your taskbar if using Windows, you should see grey monitor icons, one for the Ethernet connection and one for wireless, right click mouse on them and select Status/Properties, now in �Local Area Connection Properties� scroll down to �Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)� select this, then Properties.

...I'm using Windows 7, right clicking doesn't give the above options but I can open up Network Connections and open Properties to LAN and also Wireless...here do I choose Internet Protocol Version 6 or 4? When I go into either then they are selected to "Obtain IP address autmatically"...so I change that to the previous settings you mentioned? What shall I put in the "Alternate DNS server"?

Also to make things a little more complicated...I have my Superhub Starting IP Address set to 192.168.0.2 and ending 192.168.0.51 - I didnt want to alter it to DHCP Start: 192.168.0.21 and DHCP End: 192.168.0.250 as I didn't want to have to reconnect all my devices again. Does this matter? What shall I put in the Internet Protocol properties then or am I best changing it as you previously advised?

Many thanks again for your help E7er
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(deleted) Sun 08-Jul-12 16:47:22
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I'm using Windows 7, right clicking doesn't give the above options but I can open up Network Connections and open Properties to LAN and also Wireless...here do I choose Internet Protocol Version 6 or 4? When I go into either then they are selected to "Obtain IP address autmatically"...so I change that to the previous settings you mentioned? What shall I put in the "Alternate DNS server"?
I think you would choose Internet Protocol Version 4. The Alternate DNS server IP address, leave that blank.

http://portforward.com/networking/static-win7.htm
Also to make things a little more complicated...I have my Superhub Starting IP Address set to 192.168.0.2 and ending 192.168.0.51 - I didnt want to alter it to DHCP Start: 192.168.0.21 and DHCP End: 192.168.0.250 as I didn't want to have to reconnect all my devices again. Does this matter? What shall I put in the Internet Protocol properties then or am I best changing it as you previously advised?
These other devices are they configured with a static IP address then? If not they will connect dynamically with what IP address the Super Hub router DHCP server issues to them.

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Hi, okay! You need to see if the configuration is correct! On your taskbar if using Windows, you should see grey monitor icons, one for the Ethernet connection and one for wireless, right click mouse on them and select Status/Properties, now in �Local Area Connection Properties� scroll down to �Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)� select this, then Properties.

You should see for Ethernet�

Use Following IP Address:

IP address: 192.168.0.? <- important make sure this is within the static range, this is your PC Ethernet connection.
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gatway:192.168.0.1

Use the following DNS server address:
Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.1


You should now see for wireless�

Use Following IP Address:

IP address: 192.168.0.? <- important make sure this is within the static range, this is your PC wireless connection.
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gatway:192.168.0.1

Use the following DNS server address:
Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.1


Make the Ethernet connection IP address: 192.168.0.3
Make the Wireless connection IP address: 192.168.0.13


I did the above and it didn't work. However since doing this I can't get any wireless internet connection when connected to the Superhub (this was never a problem before) - I've tried removing the ssid on wireless networks and re-adding, also have tried restarting PC and modems but still doesnt work, it connects to the Superhub but doesn't give any internet?? I've tried selecting the Obtain IP address automatically in Internet Protocol also as it was before the modifications but that doesnt work either. Ethernet connection is still ok?? Wireless internet is ok on iphone/ipad when connected to Superhub

Any thoughts?
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(deleted) Sun 08-Jul-12 19:01:50
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Finally managed to get the wireless internet working...didn't realise that DNS server address was still set to the manual one rather than auto

I think I'm not going to get much further with the Brightbox so will look for an alternative solution. Was thinking of buying the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND. Any thoughts? It seems to have a strong wireless signal which is my main priority, also is only £42
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In reply to a post by drkash:
Finally managed to get the wireless internet working...didn't realise that DNS server address was still set to the manual one rather than auto
Where is this DNS server address setting?
I think I'm not going to get much further with the Brightbox so will look for an alternative solution. Was thinking of buying the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND. Any thoughts? It seems to have a strong wireless signal which is my main priority, also is only £42
I have my Netgear DGN1000 wireless router now set-up and connected to my Bright Box wireless router with this configuration and it all works perfectly and it is very fast via wireless. I can even switch to each wireless connection the Bright Box having three separate wireless connection settings and the Netgear having one, so I know this configuration all works. Go through it all again and check out the configuration.

A Tip� Go to Windows 7 Network and Internet/Network Connections and click on Local Area Network (Network) and create shortcut, do the same for the wireless Network. Position the shortcut icons at lower right hand corner of desktop, this will help you to configure the network connections. wink

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Where is this DNS server address setting?

This was in...
On your taskbar if using Windows, you should see grey monitor icons, one for the Ethernet connection and one for wireless, right click mouse on them and select Status/Properties, now in �Local Area Connection Properties� scroll down to �Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)� select this, then Properties.


I have Coaxial cable > Superhub > Ethernet to Brightbox > Ethernet/Wireless to Laptop - when latter is Ethernet connected its fine, once I remove the Ethernet and change to Wireless only then connection drops out after 5mins.

When I tried the same configuration but using Netgear DGN100 (instead of the Brightbox) it worked fine and the setup was straightforward. I can only assume that the Brightbox somehow is incompatible with the Superhub
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