NAS wise just plug that in via the main wireless router & the wifi devices should pick it up as if it were wired

Wifi speeds drop off fairly quickly through walls etc thats the only major downside

Using WPA2 AES & a random long password security shouldn't really be an issue

Edited by ukhardy07 (Sun 23-Sep-12 10:38:41)

but if the home plugs was at fault, then surly they would not work on the same floor?

They're distance dependent - the RF signals they put out are attenuated and lost in the mains wiring so something that works in the next room may not work in the garage etc.

If they "fade" rather than "fail" the range might decline

Do you have any surge protection connected at or near the sockets that provide poor performance over Homeplugs ?
Surge protection normally uses devices called Varistors which have a high self capacitance. This causes the radio frequency Homeplug signals to be shunted away. Also many PC and peripherals power supplies use Varistors to protect against mains spikes.
I have a remote NAS connected to my PC via Homeplugs and I find that if I use the sockets that my PC is connected to I get a very poor throughput.
The simple solution is to run a ethernet cable to a nearby socket that does not have a surge protector plugged into the other gang.
RF is funny stuff and just a few metres can make all the difference between good and poor performance.

Edited by deleted (Sun 23-Sep-12 12:15:38)

In reply to a post by yarwell:

[ They're distance dependent - the RF signals they put out are attenuated and lost in the mains wiring so something that works in the next room may not work in the garage etc.

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that is true.

If they "fade" rather than "fail" the range might decline

but they still work between floors at a decent speed if I use the socket on the landing or the one on the other side of the room. Very strange.

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

NAS wise just plug that in via the main wireless router & the wifi devices should pick it up as if it were wired

i know that and that is how i had things before I decided to use a switch and move the NAs up here.
the problem is if I put the NAS on the router directly and use wi-fi or home plugs for that matter I would lose the 1Gb connection speed I get over Ethernet.

Wifi speeds drop off fairly quickly through walls etc thats the only major downside

That is the problem, but wireless N should solve that to a certain extent and the inside walls of this house are pretty thin.

Using WPA2 AES & a random long password security shouldn't really be an issue

Just a pain to input into some devices like Ps3, wii and mobile phone, saying that my wii and PS3 is wired as the router is under the TV.

In reply to a post by towdgeezer:

Do you have any surge protection connected at or near the sockets that provide poor performance over Homeplugs ?
Surge protection normally uses devices called Varistors which have a high self capacitance. This causes the radio frequency Homeplug signals to be shunted away. Also many PC and peripherals power supplies use Varistors to protect against mains spikes.
I have a remote NAS connected to my PC via Homeplugs and I find that if I use the sockets that my PC is connected to I get a very poor throughput.
The simple solution is to run a ethernet cable to a nearby socket that does not have a surge protector plugged into the other gang.
RF is funny stuff and just a few metres can make all the difference between good and poor performance.

I think you meant to reply to me, as i am having the problems.

i know not to run them through surge protection units and the only uses I have got have the TV, wii, Ps3 and also the router, my broadband module that is on the roof and my voip and phone plugged into.
the homeplug is plugged into a normal socket on the wall behind the TV.
I have got a surge protection unit up here as well, which the printer, scanner and a few bits are plugged into, the computer and monitor is plugged into a UPS
again the home plug is plugged into a normal wall socket.

you are right about other power supplies using Varistors, but surly they can't cause a problem outside the units?

i would love to be able to run a long ethernet cable directly from this computer to the router, but that is difficult. as it would mean, going under the floor boards of the landing and my bedroom and then a hole in the ceiling to go down to the living room.

i was thinking of going up, through the loft, then across the loft and then down into the bedroom and then down again to the living room, but that would be one hell of a long cable.

i may cope with what I have at the moment and maybe when I have my next week off i will look at the long Ethernet side as I got no carpet on the landing and the bedroom carpet is not stuck down.

i don't know.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

...i would love to be able to run a long ethernet cable directly from this computer to the router, but that is difficult. as it would mean, going under the floor boards of the landing and my bedroom and then a hole in the ceiling to go down to the living room.

...i may cope with what I have at the moment and maybe when I have my next week off i will look at the long Ethernet side as I got no carpet on the landing and the bedroom carpet is not stuck down.

That would certainly be my preference, I did a similar thing a few years ago

In reply to a post by GeeTee:

Have you introduced anything electrical recently that could be introducing noise onto the mains ring (particularly think about wall-wart type power supplies, low voltage lighting)?

It would be interesting to find out if it was something like this which would offer a deterrent solution to those suffering interference from these allegedly illegal radio devices.

In reply to a post by gomezz:

In reply to a post by GeeTee:

Have you introduced anything electrical recently that could be introducing noise onto the mains ring (particularly think about wall-wart type power supplies, low voltage lighting)?

It would be interesting to find out if it was something like this which would offer a deterrent solution to those suffering interference from these allegedly illegal radio devices.

What is illegal?

the only people who seems to have interference from homeplugs are Radio hams, if that is what you are on about then to be honest after the hassle we had with one of them a few years back I not that bothered about them.

In reply to a post by 4M2:

That would certainly be my preference, I did a similar thing a few years ago

i will have to have a look to see how easy it would be.