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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Tue 16-Jul-13 11:12:26
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Re: Extending broadband to outbuilding-help appreciated


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In reply to a post by rook55:
Sorry if I sound dumb, but I have found some info online which always starts out promising but then goes very technical on me!


I know the feeling, and dare I say it, if you're not a techie, MHC's post might be a little technical too, although it's perfectly proper (sorry MHC wink ).

In the most simplistic terms, you'll need an armoured cable solution (per MHC's post). You want a modem/router (ideally with a switch capable of 1Gbit) at the house connected to the exchange (Internet). I would personally use the fastest cables you think you'll need for the lifetime of the setup.

In fact, I would also run a spare cat five cable, and a couple of phone extension cables (you never know). Once you've done the underground work, you won't want to do it again.

At the house, you would have faceplate(s) to the cable run for whatever cables are going to be in use, with identical faceplate(s) at the office end.

Again, per MHC's post, in the office, you would have a network switch to a WAP, but I would also have an external hard drive (NAS) attached to the switch for continuous backups from the laptops, and have it takes backups to an identical NAS in the house (on another router port). If you lose one, there's always the other, and they would backup/restore at cable speeds, assuming your switches are 1Gbit.

All cables should be RJ45 connections within the buildings, while at the back of the faceplates they will be IDC terminations (again, per MHC's post). See below for an example:

http://www.keene.co.uk/pages/cat/jpgs/UTPTP_REAR.jpg

Don't worry too much about the wiring. Once you've decided on your solution (double check before diving in), you can always post about the wiring itself, or anything else.

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Tue 16-Jul-13 11:13:34
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Googling for 'Spitfire cables' didn't work.

DOH!

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 16-Jul-13 11:17:52
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Re: Extending broadband to outbuilding-help appreciated


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In reply to a post by camieabz:
I know the feeling, and dare I say it, if you're not a techie, MHC's post might be a little technical too, although it's perfectly proper (sorry MHC wink ).

In the most simplistic terms, you'll need an armoured cable solution (per MHC's post). You want a modem/router (ideally with a switch capable of 1Gbit) at the house connected to the exchange (Internet). I would personally use the fastest cables you think you'll need for the lifetime of the setup.

In fact, I would also run a spare cat five cable, and a couple of phone extension cables (you never know). Once you've done the underground work, you won't want to do it again.


Don't agree with armoured - certainly not SWA. The OP already has a pipe/duct running so overcoated PE should be adequate.

An extra Cat5e could be useful for the phones - unless VOIP is used and it may be better to just get external 'phone cable for that - smaller diameter and less cores. CW1128 http://www.fscables.com/Signal++Control/Telephone+Ca...


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 16-Jul-13 11:24:26
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MHC - thanks for the updated link!

Camieabz - thanks, yes MHC's post was very technical but was broken down so I could think about it in small chunks! I appreciate you breaking it down further for me. At least I know I am thinking along the correct lines and it is possible, I just need to decide what exactly how to do it and then I will be back I am sure!
Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Tue 16-Jul-13 11:38:10
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Don't agree with armoured - certainly not SWA. The OP already has a pipe/duct running so overcoated PE should be adequate.


Ahh, I missed the duct bit. Even better. In that case, throw in some 30A socket cable and a some co-axial too. wink

(kidding)

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 16-Jul-13 11:41:15
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In that case, throw in some 30A socket cable


I think that even MHC's very good solution might fail if the OP doesn't have electrical power going out to the Out-Building! wink
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(deleted) Tue 16-Jul-13 12:15:20
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In reply to a post by camieabz:
In that case, throw in some 30A socket cable


I think that even MHC's very good solution might fail if the OP doesn't have electrical power going out to the Out-Building! wink
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In reply to a post by rook55:
There is power in the office (but different system to the house).
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 16-Jul-13 12:32:14
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So in addition to the cable, you'll need a couple of faceplates for either end http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cat5e-Single-Socket-Ethernet...

A couple of back boxes http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cat5e-Socket-Ethernet-Networ...

An insertion tool http://www.amazon.co.uk/KRONE-Type-Punch-Telephone-I...

A couple of patch cables http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cat5e-RJ45-Ethernet-Network-...

and a wireless access point, if you can't use the existing one in your office http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edimax-EW-7228APN-150Mbps-5-...
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(deleted) Tue 16-Jul-13 12:39:38
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In reply to a post by rook55:
There is power in the office (but different system to the house).


If by that you mean a different phase then you have to be extremely careful about earthing and shielding!
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 16-Jul-13 12:57:48
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In reply to a post by rook55:
There is power in the office (but different system to the house).


If by that you mean a different phase then you have to be extremely careful about earthing and shielding!


Would you care to explain EXACTLY how that will be a problem, provided both electrical installations meet the appropriate standards.

Just look at how many offices have networks? They will be supplied with 3-phase power and different parts of te building will be on different phases. The comms room often has equipment on all three. the network cables are fed all around the building with no problems.

Likewise - the incoming VDSL or ADSL signal. It may not only be on a different phase but almost certainly a different supply through different sub-stations.


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