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(deleted) Wed 18-Mar-15 20:40:04
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Yeah I got a refund on the day I noticed an issue. Solwise were trying to assist me in getting it to work properly but as soon as I questioned about them causing interference with FTTC they haven't responded since.
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(deleted) Wed 18-Mar-15 20:51:48
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BTW when you run the cables under the floor boards make sure they are not running close along side any power cables. Ok to cross a power cable at 90 degrees. When I installed mine I drilled addition holes in the joists for the network cables a good 4/6" away from any power. Don't want to do all that work and end up with crosstalk interference.
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(deleted) Wed 18-Mar-15 21:28:17
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Yeah I'll remember to do that. Never thought about drilling holes though. That's a good plan. Thanks for the tip. Think I'll be alright to reboot my BT modem now as all ping times have recovered.


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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Mar-15 22:39:30
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Really interesting the issues you have had.
I have used HomePlugs for about a year without any issues. I have these connected at opposite ends of the house.

I have main router in the living room (front of house). This is connected to a homeplug.

Then at the back of the house I have the second Homeplug. Into this is another router.
So I have 2 routers, one at the front of the house, one at the back. This ensures good WiFI all over the house.

Both routers have the same wireless network name: SKY81192
Devices only see it as 1 network and seamlessly hop onto whichever signal is best.

The speeds are 73Mbps on both routers. No slowdown on the homeplugs.

I use this set:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-PA411KIT-Powerline-A...

For the record my connection has not dropped out for 1200 hours now.
The 2nd homeplug router has been on for 6000 hours without being turned off.
So that must mean the Homeplug and router have been on for 6000 hours.

I think you had some faulty devices.

Every single device in my house uses WiFi, approx. 30 devices.
My SkyHub (front of house) has been on for 1200 hours now, but I've had it on for 6 months solid before without a reboot.

EDIT: Maybe try out the set I use?

Edited by ukhardy07 (Wed 18-Mar-15 22:44:26)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 18-Mar-15 23:47:47
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Work out what you need and where.

Where you think you need a single run, install two. Where you think you need two, install four cables. You do not have to terminate them immediately and can do it later on however, you will soon find uses for all.

Run them all back to a patch panel - in a cupboard and install a switch there too. It does not have to be where the hub/router is. You can then link your router to that switch ...


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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 19-Mar-15 08:15:11
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In reply to a post by rogerfp:
I really don't know why anyone uses Homeplugs. They are about as useful as the proverbial chocolate teapot and are just for the lazy.


Other's experience is not necessarily the same as yours. There are reasons why it can be difficult to run cables. I used to run homeplugs and happily got around 80Mbps throughput on them which was more than enough for my broadband - and this was about 5 years ago.

I also have 2 different family members who run homeplugs in their homes and they do just fine for them as well. They aren't cheap but where cabling is difficult or completely ruled out then they serve a purpose that would be difficult to do in other ways.
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(deleted) Thu 19-Mar-15 12:11:46
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Running cables may be a simple task for me actually as I have noticed in my newly purchased house which is 15 years old, There are cables running to the top corners of every room. They all run back to a cupboard under the stairs and were initially installed for an alarm system which the previous owners never used.

The cables appear to be a two wire cable so I'm tempted to use these to pull in CAT5E cable back to cupboard under the stairs. Directly through this wall is where my router and modem sit!!!!
I would just have to try and drop each cable down to floor board level and create a wired connection in each room.

What could possibly go wrong haha.

As for the Home plugs. I don't feel like I would use them again. Not sure if it was due to me having the homeplugs, Modems and router all connected into the same socket but it was the only choice I had.
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(sensei) Thu 19-Mar-15 12:21:38
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That could be messy! Much better to do it at floor level. You could however use a couple of those for wall mounted WAPs.


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(deleted) Thu 19-Mar-15 13:06:57
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Thats what I meant when I said to drop to floorboard level. I actually meant to skirting board level rather than the top corener of the room. Should make cable pulling very simple.

I rebooted the modem and it appears my speed still hasn't recovered. Looks like I'll be waiting a further good few weeks for improvement. DLM sucks. It quickly adds things to stabilise the line but it is extremely slow in removing. This is currently week 4-5 and I'm still not fully back to normal.

At least my pings have returned to normal though so hopefully the next step is full sync speed.
Standard User trolleybus
(committed) Thu 19-Mar-15 13:35:07
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In reply to a post by rogerfp:
Good for you. It'll be far cheaper than Homeplugs and 10 x the performance. There is always a way to run a cable neatly with a little thought. Hope you can get a refund on them.
Personally I think Homeplugs should be banned as not fit for purpose. They are just a con.


Your opinion mate, for others they meet a demand where running fixed wiring would be extremely difficult and in some cases impossible. In my case I have one master home plug feeding 3 slave units

My test results produced the following results:
PC 1 hardwired into router
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

PC 2 connected with home plug
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Next to no difference with these test results. And how you can suggest it will be 10* times the performance using fixed wiring is beyond my comprehension.

HD streaming to the two TVs connected via home plugs are just fine with no buffering.

Using the 200 version of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-PA411KIT-Powerline-A...

£50 and the job was done in 30 minutes to one PC and two TVs. Hardwiring would not have saved very much money and would have probably taken a day or so to be up and running or an arm and a leg to have a tradesman do the installation.

I don't need the net police to ban such products, they will do exactly what they say on the tin providing they are connected directly to the wall socket that is on a ring main. I will concede that their performance is diabolical on spur wiring, e.g. to the garden shed, kitted out as a home office.
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