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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 19-Mar-15 13:43:19
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You have an extra colon : at the end of your 2nd link
Standard User trolleybus
(committed) Thu 19-Mar-15 14:10:36
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
You have an extra colon : at the end of your 2nd link


That's really odd how that has crept in but removal of that colon and the link works fine or you can use this-
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
Standard User philippercival
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 19-Mar-15 16:24:38
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I agree they have a place and for the internet they will normally keep up with your connection speed. If you have/use a home network to move large amounts of data from one machine to another for any reason, eg backup, then the wired network will win every time. This assumes of course that machines and switches are rigged for Gb. A couple of my older machines have 100mb NICs and they would be the limiting factor.

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Standard User trolleybus
(committed) Thu 19-Mar-15 16:51:05
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In reply to a post by philippercival:
I agree they have a place and for the internet they will normally keep up with your connection speed. If you have/use a home network to move large amounts of data from one machine to another for any reason, eg backup, then the wired network will win every time. This assumes of course that machines and switches are rigged for Gb. A couple of my older machines have 100mb NICs and they would be the limiting factor.


Of course you are right on every count but this thread has a contributor who stated that home plugs were a complete con when clearly they are not.

The utopia of a network you describe, and the network usage envisage thereon, is IMHO not very common in a home environment. Stating that scenario here only serves to muddy the waters when discussing the merits, or otherwise, of PoE plugs in the home.
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(deleted) Thu 19-Mar-15 18:47:25
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I posted that comment on the basis that if you pay for something that's not worth it, it's a con. How can anyone justify paying £25 an more for Homeplugs when you can run cat 5e/6 cable for around 10% of the cost and get far better and stable connectivity which is also capable of much faster speeds in the future. All it needs to run cable is a bit of thought about how to route them and a basic ability in DIY. It's not rocket science to run them and terminate them correctly, or even just run ready made cable with the connectors already fitted.
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(fountain of knowledge) Thu 19-Mar-15 18:47:26
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Whoops sorry, I see that I did not actually mention them, but I was supporting the use of home plugs. I have bought them for others on two occasions, and they worked well. I suspect that home networks perhaps with as NAS drive for backing up, may be more common than you think.

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Standard User trolleybus
(committed) Thu 19-Mar-15 19:41:17
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In reply to a post by rogerfp:
I posted that comment on the basis that if you pay for something that's not worth it, it's a con. How can anyone justify paying £25 an more for Homeplugs when you can run cat 5e/6 cable for around 10% of the cost and get far better and stable connectivity which is also capable of much faster speeds in the future. All it needs to run cable is a bit of thought about how to route them and a basic ability in DIY. It's not rocket science to run them and terminate them correctly, or even just run ready made cable with the connectors already fitted.


Re: 10% of the cost. Hmm, I don't think so. I grant you that hardwiring IS a superior job but from time to time home plugs are the only practical solution.

So supplying a data service to three locations in the home requires [at retail prices]:
1 - Cat5e UTP PVC Solid Cable [Interior Use] - 100mt Grey £24
4 - RJ45 Cat5e Module in a Single Gang Faceplate - £10.85
4 - 1-Gang Surface Pattress Box 40mm White - £6.72
1 - Clips, raw plugs, screws - £2
1 - Punch down tool - £35
8 - Snagless Booted Cat5e RJ45 Patch Cables 0.5m - £9.05
Total £87.62 + a day DIY installation time

OR

2 - TP-LINK PA411KIT AV500 500 Mbps Powerline Adapter Starter Kit [Twin Pack] - £49
Total £49 + less than 30 minutes DIY installation time.

You might be able to reduce the cost of a hardwired solution a bit but in essence there isn't much difference in the price for either method. Ready terminated Cat5e cable requires a much larger hole through walls which could well be unacceptable from a d�cor point of view.
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(deleted) Thu 19-Mar-15 20:10:13
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What a stupid reply. Where do you shop - Harrods?
100m cat5e cable £12.00
4x RJ45 faceplates with backpoxes = £12.99
Krone style insertion tool = £1.99
8x snagless cat 5e 0.5 m patch cables = £8
Sundries = £0.50
All prices inc carriage. Total = £35
Time to install = a few hours for anyone with half a brain.
And the satisfaction of knowing that something has been done properly.
Seriously????
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(deleted) Thu 19-Mar-15 20:33:57
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Homeplugs are still in the same price range, without the installation nightmare.
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(deleted) Thu 19-Mar-15 20:58:27
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True, but Homeplugs are still the amateur way of doing things. I hardly call the installation a nightmare, lifting a few carpets, floor boards and drilling a few holes. Personally I just consider that a minor DIY job. But each to their own I guess.
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