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In reply to a post by rogerfp:

What a stupid reply. Where do you shop - Harrods?
100m cat5e cable £12.00
4x RJ45 faceplates with backpoxes = £12.99
Krone style insertion tool = £1.99
8x snagless cat 5e 0.5 m patch cables = £8
Sundries = £0.50
All prices inc carriage. Total = £35
Time to install = a few hours for anyone with half a brain.
And the satisfaction of knowing that something has been done properly.
Seriously????

Seldom buy such items myself but anyone embarking on such a project would pay such prices in B&Q. As I have mentioned previously in this thread, hardwired is best but not always practical to do it that way and therefore home plugs represent value for money and a reasonable solution. Now where do your buy 8 No8 25mm long screws with raw plugs + a box of a hundred clips for just 50p - you are having a laugh there! And use of a plastic Krone tool as well when you talk about doing a job properly. These components are not sold in Harrods BTW .

It's not a plastic Krone insertion tool http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Network-BT-Telephone-Socke... You obviously like to waste your money and you've just guessed at the prices. If you check B&Q they don't even sell a lot of the items. Most of us research the best way to buy items instead of blindly going to a high street DIY shop and pay top dollar. Would anyone seriously go out and buy a new box of screws, rawlplugs and cable clips to do a simple job like this. Anyway most of the items needed come with mounting screws and rawlplugs as anyone knows. I wouldn't even need cable clips as all the cable would be hidden under floorboards. Even at your price of £2 for sundries makes little difference to the overall cost. Why exaggerate prices just to try and prove your case?

Edited by deleted (Thu 19-Mar-15 23:44:18)

Cable clips - I pay that sort of price for basic round clips.

Who sells No8x25 mm screws? 3.5 or 4 x 25 mm maybe ... and they come in at lest than 0.5p each

Patch cables, can be less than £1 each too

There are metal insertion tools available at £1.50 to £2 each - I woud not suggest they are good for thousands of connections but for this amount, will be fine.

Absolutely, totally agree with everything you say. I expect most of us have got loads of useable bits and pieces in our garages anyway. Whatever the cost of these sundries it's pretty irrelevant to the overall total. I think the major component is the desire to do something properly.

Maybe.

If you go back over my posts for many years you will see that I always suggest wired and not the mains wiring solution. It is the only real way to provide high quality reliable connectivity.

I used well over 600m of Cat5e and a lot of Cat6 when cabling around two thirds of my house ... still more to do.

A man after my own heart.

In reply to a post by rogerfp:

True, but Homeplugs are still the amateur way of doing things. I hardly call the installation a nightmare, lifting a few carpets, floor boards and drilling a few holes. Personally I just consider that a minor DIY job. But each to their own I guess.

Totally agree wired is best, 100%! I would be wired if I could be.

My downstairs is laminated, and tiled. I lifted up the laminate before and it cracked. I would have to drill the cemented tiles out to lay cabling under it.

In my situation wired is just not possible.

I would have to lay a wire from one end of the living room to the other, under laminate, then get it through the wall into the hallway, my doors are fireproof and there is no room to fit a cable under or around so drilling required... From here the cabling would need to go under approx 15m length of tiles (drill them up?), then it would need to get into the kitchen, the wall here is behind the kitchen units - so I guess I would have to pull the units off the wall to get a wire through. I would then need to lay it under the kitchen tiling (again do I drill it up). From here into the back room, under more laminate, then into the garage this is concrete, don't know how to hide the wiring in here... then finally through the wall into where the second router is. & that is the most logical route.

Hence homeplugs are used. They cost me a total of £24.99 at the time and work flawless 24/7.

I fully understand in your situation that its just not practical. I wouldn't want to pull up laminate floors or drill out cemented tile either. I've one area where laminate floor is laid quite a few years ago, but fortunately I installed cable under the floorboards before doing so. However its only CAT5 not 5e or 6. Only a short length and seems to support Gigabit AOK, but I'm guessing one day it will need to be upgraded. Unless the laminate needs to be replaced, I will drill through the wall to the outside from the office at the front of the house and run external ethernet round the side to the back and through the wall of the room and termiunate it with a CAT 6 box. The cable will be around 12 foot off the ground so well out of reach.