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Standard User threelegs
(newbie) Mon 26-Sep-16 20:09:49
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Re: Powerline Plug Recommendations


[re: BrianC1] [link to this post]
 
cable if at all possible but dont buy from here at these prices!!!!!!!


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Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Mon 26-Sep-16 20:39:17
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Re: Powerline Plug Recommendations


[re: iand] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by iand:
get the devolo 1200 devices. I use the 650 ones to run all over the house, They just work. I can max out my 40/10link.


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Did you mean to say get Devolo 1200s and then link to TP-Link 1200s?
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Mon 26-Sep-16 20:40:14
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[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
If thinking of fibre 100% use a cable.

I have used homeplugs and can get 120Mbps one day and 2Mbps the next. They also add lag to things such as my Apple TV screen mirroring is unusable over the homeplugs whereas over standard wifi it's fine.

Get an external cable, do it right, do it once. Get a good spec cable and you won't need to upgrade in future. At the end of the cable connect an AP.

the range of the sky hub is already good you won't find a router with significantly more range, possibly a marginal boost but slow throughput in the current not spot areas smile


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Sep-16 23:31:25
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[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
the problem with homeplugs/powerline adapters is the frequencies the devices use are on the HF Radio Frequency spectrum the same as VDSL. and can cause bad interference to VDSL2 in some instances. have a look on google and read all the reports.. BT are even now asking if you have PowerLine Adapter's and telling you not to use them.when reporting faults/etc skyQ boxes built in powerline is one of the worst. when i am viewing a movie and using data i get interference on my alarm system.. and you cant turn it of on latest firmware..
i am not saying you will get this interference it all depends on your house wiring...

Please also note homeplugs can also use your internal house wiring as one big antenna and cause harmful wireless interference to your neighbourhood....if you really need to use homeplugs then use a mains conditioner this will help cut this interference and can protect you from any interference coming into your house wiring............
Standard User gomezz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-Sep-16 09:02:40
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The potential for interference appears to have been overstated in practise although it is possible that this is just because so few people are in a position to identify problems they have started getting as being down to their neighbours using these things.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 27-Sep-16 09:30:02
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[re: gomezz] [link to this post]
 
The potential has not been overstated - more a case of there being very few extreme cases.

As you say, how many can actually prove it?

If you go back to the old baby monitors - same principles. There were demonstrated cases where someone with a similar systems several houses away could pick up the transmissions as they were not encrypted.and maybe higher power. Some reports suggested over 100m away was common.

The cable is very, very, low impedance - especially when compared to phone cables and how far to the very low level ADSL and VDSL signals travel? Several miles for ADSL.


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Standard User gomezz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-Sep-16 10:22:06
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[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
TBH what is more worrying is this

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/21/att_tries_ag...

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 27-Sep-16 10:36:01
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[re: gomezz] [link to this post]
 
Been known about for quite a while - only now becoming public. It is, to be honest, a horrendous proposal. Interference with radio - not just amateur, Homeplugs would not co-exist, crosstalk to phone lines ... and many more issues.

However, if ATT have a patent they could then use it to stop others using a similar method and causing issues with telephony based DSL.


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Standard User dsergeant
(member) Tue 27-Sep-16 17:50:06
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[re: gomezz] [link to this post]
 
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TBH what is more worrying is this

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/21/att_tries_ag...

Note that the ATT proposal is absolutely nothing to do with the powerline devices being discussed here. As stated in the Register article this is using signals above 20GHz and sending them along overhead distribution wires by what is effectively waveguide techniques. Any stray radiation will probably only travel millimetres. There is no possibility of interference in the range PLT devices cause (and PLT interference is indeed very very real).
Standard User iand
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 27-Sep-16 19:01:25
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[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
ok, so they all look the same. nice spot

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Devolo-dLAN-Wi-Fi-Powerline...

the other one also looks ok.

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