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Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 03-Nov-19 09:27:20
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Re: Setting Up Ubiquiti WiFi Access Points


[re: caffn8me] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by caffn8me:
One thing you need to consider is whether the absolute fastest speed possible is important. Ubiquiti access points are optimized for stable connections to multiple clients rather than fastest performance to a single client so they're often not as fast as cheaper domestic access points.

That is an interesting point. I only have a handful of Wifi devices, not a class full of kids with mobile phones. I have the original Gigaclear G10 product. If speed tests don't show 500Mbps up and down I think the connection is not working as well as it might!

Then again a ceiling mount using PoE would be quite convenient.

Michael Chare
Standard User caffn8me
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 03-Nov-19 10:57:22
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Re: Setting Up Ubiquiti WiFi Access Points


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In reply to a post by gary333:
One of the suppliers in America who makes lots of videos of UB gear suggests the LR specific model is a marketing gimmick and that it has little point over the Lite and something they rarely use. He says only to bother with Lite and if not enough move to Pro.

Have you tried the Lite and how did you find it compared to the LP.?
The UAP-AC-LR isn't entirely a marketing gimmick. Apart from anything else, it has a higher data rate on 2.4GHz than the UAP-AC-Lite due to being 3x3 MIMO rather than 2x2 MIMO. It also has a higher transmit power in both bands. For the small extra cost over the Lite it's the one I'll continue to use.

Sarah

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Standard User jabuzzard
(committed) Sun 03-Nov-19 20:37:09
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Re: Setting Up Ubiquiti WiFi Access Points


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Yeah and IMHO thats rubbish. The lite is 2x2 and the LR is 3x3 antennas. If thats a gimmick then I am a banana


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Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 03-Nov-19 21:52:36
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Re: Setting Up Ubiquiti WiFi Access Points


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Thanks Sarah

Called to see my friend this afternoon. Currently there is neither broadband or ceilings present, so an ideal time to run some CAT6 before building works move on.

To start things moving, have ordered an Ubiquiti UAP-AC-LR

Now the question, if we power up the UAP-AC-LR but without connecting it to a network, will it transmit its SSID? If so with the aid of an iPad or phone we can play with positioning it to see if one AC-LR is sufficient or he needs more. (As I mentioned it is thick wall construction)

Many thanks.

Cheers!

Clive

Andrews & Arnold FTTC DrayTek Vigor 2762ac Cisco PAP2T and HUAWEI E5776 with O2 Data SIM
Standard User caffn8me
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 03-Nov-19 23:08:57
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Re: Setting Up Ubiquiti WiFi Access Points


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It will broadcast its SSID happily provided that 'Site' settings in the controller don't have the "Enable connectivity monitor and wireless uplink" box ticked.

Rather than attaching nothing, I'd strongly recommend that you have a laptop with a gigabit ethernet port connected to the access point. You can then run the controller on the laptop and test actual wi-fi performance. You could also use something like a Raspberry Pi to do this. For wi-fi surveys I now use a Raspberry Pi 4 running a controller as this has gigabit ethernet.

With the access point connected to a controller launch the Unifi network app on the iPad/iPhone and log into the controller from the mobile device. Click the 'More' link at the bottom right of the screen and you'll see a section of Utilities on the left hand menu. Choose Wi-Fi Throughput Test and you can select between upload and download tests. You can also do this on Android.

Good luck!

Sarah

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Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 03-Nov-19 23:15:03
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Re: Setting Up Ubiquiti WiFi Access Points


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Thanks Sarah

Hopefully will try this later this week. Must try and avoid stepping into a bucket of plaster..... frown

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Jul-20 14:20:10
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Re: Setting Up Ubiquiti WiFi Access Points


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Things have moved on since November and what with continuing building works, running SWA CAT6 to the building (which will become a holiday let) and COVID-19; progress has been slow.

At that time I used my Win7 computer to run Controller 5.12.22 to set passwords etc and find the best location. The single Ubiquiti UAP-AC-LR giving 100% internal coverage and also into an outdoor patio area. This without connection to the internet.

Yesterday was switch-on day and as expected 100% WiFi at a good speed - the property is some distance from the cabinet for FTTC, so 23 Mbps is better than we expected.

Now the problem…

My friend now has a Win10 pc and yesterday downloaded UniFi Network Controller 5.13.32 for Windows. This required Java to be installed and I was a little concerned when during this that there seemed to be an end of life(?) for Java of December 2020.
With Java and Controller installed, tried to use Controller.

UniFi Controller opened with "Launch a Browser to Manage the Network" button. Tried using the same Username & Password for Log-In as in November. But got incorrect password…

Tried a few times - same result.

What I don't think helped was that my friends Win10 pc has both Chrome and Edge installed and during the installing of Controller, came across a reference to Edge not being supported by the Controller? (Or did I read that elsewhere?)

Outcome was that we could not get in.

So not sure what to try next?

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User caffn8me
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Jul-20 16:41:44
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Well done on managing to get things working despite the lockdown.

When you first install a controller on a computer you're asked to set up an account that the controller will use as the super admin. Presumably he set an account up on the Windows 10 PC as part of this process unless he restored a backup containing the site. If he didn;t restire a backup (see below) he'll need to log in using the credentials he set up for his controller, not the ones you previously set up on your laptop.

If you took a backup of the site on your laptop and restored it on his it may not have transferred admin users across to a new controller so you end up with a controller you can't log in to.

Get him to delete the Unifi data on his controller and reinstall the software so that he has a clean controller he can log into without any devices. Once he can log in to the controller on his Windows 10 PC you can migrate from your controller to his following the destructions at https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002869188-U...

If that doesn't work, he needs to get back to a clean controller which he can log into and set up the site from scratch with the wireless network SSIDs and passwords. You then ssh into the access point using the username and which you can find on your controller by selecting Site > Device Authentication

Once logged into the access point you issue the command;

set-inform http://<IP address of his PC>:8080/inform

then it's a question of adopting it on his controller. It should show up as pending adoption. It will lose all its device settings (channel, transmit power etc) and need to be configured again when you do this so migration is the better bet if you can get that to work.

I'm a bit all over the place today (just back from meeting an electrician who will be putting in ethernet for another Unifi installation nowhere near Wombledon) so you may get a quicker response if the suggestion above doesn't work from the forums at https://community.ui.com/

Good luck and let me know how you get on.

Sarah

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Standard User jabuzzard
(committed) Thu 09-Jul-20 18:30:24
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Re: Setting Up Ubiquiti WiFi Access Points


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You can use the UniFi app on a phone/tablet to manage the device. It's what I do. For simple one or two access point installs the controller software is a bit over the top (though great for planning access point locations) IMHO. The phone/tablet just has to be on the same network as the access points.

You can even set them up initially using the UniFi app if you use a USB on the Go adaptor in combination with a USB ethernet adaptor, or have other WiFi you can use.

I would also recommend the WiFiman app from Ubiquiti too.
Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Jul-20 20:58:30
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I am thinking of the best option for my friend here. Not having much luck with his Win10 laptop, is there a version of Controller for an iPad? I have looked on my iPad's App Store and I can see UniFi Network. Is this the app he needs, or are there others?

I think I will need a click by click approach....

Cheers!

Clive

Andrews & Arnold Home::1 FTTC DrayTek Vigor 2762ac Cisco SPA112 and HUAWEI E5776 with O2 Data SIM
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