Or, rather than an actual switch, he can repurpose an old hub. Turn off DHCP and it will become a switch with WAP. I believe that is what the OP means.

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In reply to a post by TBUser2012:

My intention is to have two additional routers in bridge mode, each situated near a RJ45 outlet to support multiple wired connections (desktops/consoles) at each 'base'.

For one service you can only have one router, and unless you have a block of IP4 addresses and are routing them, you'll want that router to do NAT. You will want a network switch if you have more wired devices than sockets at any location, and depending on the size and layout you might want a WiFi access point.

Doesn't bridge mode disable NAT? I had an old AirPort Time Capsule which worked fine in this manner (connected to the LAN1 port of the ISP router).

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Not the best way for it to be done, but if a builder can save £20 on a £400,000 house he will do it. It is typical builder laziness tha he di d not even fit RJ45s or source/specify matching accessory plates. And as for the ***** that put the Hyperotic termination there ... so close to a power socket, it would be obvious that fouling of power leads would occur.

I guess when building 250+ apartments, a £5000 saving is worth it when so few buyers/landlords/tenants care about wired connectivity.

Can you elaborate on the problem with the power socket/leads? Should I not use the upper-left socket?

I was asked to attend a meeting during conversion of some new apartments in respect of putting in basic comms connections. Builder was insistent that he was to use 'phone cable, whereas the architect wanted at least Cat5e. Cost of extra cable - under £50, cost of my time £400.


The sockets are fine to use, but you will start to find the "wall warts" interfering with each other.

Leave the one in the lower left, with an upward facing cable, then put the other, with downward cable in te upper left - they will clash. The lower right at present is close to, if not touching the Hyperoptic install. Neither are very clever - and some basic thought would have done things differently with greater spacing and perhaps another pair or two.

And for comms areas it is much better to use sockets with outboard rockers (switches) to ensure accidental switching does not happen, or even ones without switches.

It is just bad planning and installation.

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Doesn't bridge mode disable NAT? I had an old AirPort Time Capsule which worked fine in this manner (connected to the LAN1 port of the ISP router).

It does - bridge mode just presents whatever IP addresses (usually one) your ISP gives you, over Ethernet. It handles the PPPOE login and conversion from the physical media and that is all. Assuming you have more devices than public IPs, you’ll need something to do NAT; I’m not familiar with the Time Capsule but there are access points with routing, NAT and DHCP functionality such as the Linksys Velop which Gigaclear use.

Wait, are you sure that the ethernet cables should be going back to a central point?

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Wait, are you sure that the ethernet cables should be going back to a central point?

What makes you say this?

This could be a pre-spam, spam. IYSWIM

Zombie thread reanimation?

That’s typical modus operandi of a 1 post spammer…